The KD Ratio!
The KD Ratio!
Hilarious Journey through Money Management, Obsessions, and Craftsmanship
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Strap in for an entertaining ride as we take you through the hilarious world of money management, investment quirks, and peculiar spending habits. Ever wondered how your love for kitchen appliances and boots can correlate with investment decisions? We've got a chuckle-worthy discussion lined up for you about the inverse relationship between interest rates and bond prices, and how this knowledge can shape your financial decisions. Whether you're thinking about investing in gold or just holding on to your cash, join us as we talk about the importance of conscious spending.
As we peel back the layers of our personal obsessions, from kitchen gadgets to boots, we also tackle the very real issue of analysis paralysis. We share our laugh-out-loud experiences with the phenomenon, from agonizing over game restarts to spending way too much time on product research. Fellow gamers will get a kick out of our chat about Elden Ring's performance on various platforms and our preferred character classes in Baldur's Gate. Prepare for a dose of hilarity as one of us shares a tale about extensively researching a game they ultimately never played.
Finally, we journey into the fascinating world of lidar technology, boot and knife fandoms, and the delicate art of microbrews and wine. Come share our appreciation for the craftsmanship that goes into creating quality products. From our plans for a kitchen overhaul to our enthusiasm for a local knife company, you'll get an insider's look into our passion for quality and craftsmanship. So, whether you're a foodie, a tech geek, a fashion enthusiast, or just in for a good laugh, we're eager to share this wild ride with you. Don't forget to bring your favorite pair of boots!
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Speaker 2:Are we? Yes, we are Sounded like a question?
Speaker 1:I think so. Yes, we are live, let's see we're working.
Speaker 3:Yes.
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Speaker 3:All right, you were saying something, though, as we were starting right.
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Speaker 3:What was the topic? It's a blicken bolt to the name of the episode.
Speaker 2:How about to manage your money?
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Speaker 2:This is how we're gonna grow our, our fan base.
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Speaker 3:What about?
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Speaker 3:All right, that was fun, that was, that was funny.
Speaker 1:Howdy everybody. How are we doing tonight? It is a beautiful Thanksgiving week. I am pumped as all get out to be joined by you. Man, that came fast, no Like this year is just blown by year is flying by and you know I appreciate both of you. It's been a lot of fun doing this. I'm glad you know?
Speaker 3:You say it's like it's going to end.
Speaker 2:I appreciate both of you it's, but this is it.
Speaker 1:I'm announcing my resignation.
Speaker 3:What did I come into? What did you come into? You came into we're shifting into a financial podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't listen to anything. I just said it was completely nonsense.
Speaker 3:Getting gold in your backyard is the way to go.
Speaker 2:Plant a tree over it so you know where it is Exactly. Otherwise, you'll be looking for a long time.
Speaker 1:I appreciate you boys. This has been a lot of fun. Every year we've kind of come back and weak effort as always or actually you know what he played it off.
Speaker 2:He started weak but then he went sensual and I appreciated that you start with a soft touch and then you get more aggressive as they show interest.
Speaker 1:So I watched. What the Thank you he's grooming me. I watched this movie Old Dads, have you seen this movie with Bill Burr? It just came out, I think.
Speaker 2:Oh no, I've seen clips though.
Speaker 1:Dude. So I say something that they mock in that I always say I appreciate you, and it's always like I mean it genuinely when I say that I appreciate you. They mock it as like this millennial Gen Z shit that, like Bill Burr, mocks it yes.
Speaker 2:Isn't he he's making fun of it as a millennial.
Speaker 3:Gen Z or something to say he's not a millennial.
Speaker 1:He's older. Yeah, he's Gen X.
Speaker 2:But is he making fun of millennials saying that?
Speaker 1:He is. Yeah, they mock it multiple times and I appreciate you and I was like dude, I say that all the time, but like that's because Do I sound like a loser For the?
Speaker 2:millennial generation. Men weren't allowed to like other people because it might be gay.
Speaker 4:You know like yeah.
Speaker 2:You weren't allowed. If your friend was someone that you were, the most emotion you could show to your friends is you can get in fist fights, well, no, so the way they do, the only character that says this is a character that you're supposed to hate.
Speaker 1:Oh well, then that's, and so, yeah, that was my whole. That's unfair, yeah, it is, it's unfortunate, but here we are, but anyway I nonetheless. I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 4:It's been a great year. I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1:Let's get into spending money we all have had. I feel like this is bad and we talked about this right for the podcast but like we've had to elevate our expectations of what it means to spend and spend money. And I'm curious, like, kyle, what are you into lately? What are you into lately, dylan, for, like where you want to spend money? For me it is kitchen appliances and like kitchen gadgets, yeah, and pans and stuff like utility items. Like I am like all in, I have gone down the deep end of kitchen appliances and like why you need it.
Speaker 1:And like I'm coming across brands that you've never heard of and they're so niche and like read, like I'm talking, like like three, three to five thousand dollars for a full set of pans, wow.
Speaker 2:And it makes my new. Thing.
Speaker 1:I know I've gone into the deep end but I've also gone so deep that I've smelt my own bullshit and had to pull out of it because it's like oh, that's way because it's like euphemism. Probably not. But it's like I've gone so deep where it's like you start sacrificing, like you get so niche into a product that you sacrifice other features because it does these other things so well.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, and I can explain that later. But, kyle Dylan, what are you guys like this holiday season? I?
Speaker 3:feel like you blow in your load. Kyle's got the more substance worthy one yeah.
Speaker 2:Only one single product right now I've I've become a boot nerd Like I am. I don't know what it is. I've been super into boots lately and I have to talk myself off the off the cliff of buying boots for like over six hundred dollars and I'm like, well, you know, I could do this one in four payments.
Speaker 3:They offer a payment plan at zero percent interest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that'll that'll be somewhat cheap. I do like that. But yeah, I've been obsessed with boots. Right now, the brand that I'm really digging is Nix. They're probably the best. I mean, they're the premier like the best quality you can get, for sure. But they also have some of the like the hardest break in period, I think. They say it's about a hundred days of use before.
Speaker 2:Before you break in Wow Nix, but it's got. They got like a five to ten year lifespan, depending on and these are like they make dress boots, but these are like boot boots, these are like working, working man boots.
Speaker 1:So when I was a young professional and I had to actually go into like the office and stuff, I always hated the options for like dress shoes for men. Yeah, because every option that you had and this even carries over to when I was like working at like high end restaurants because you'd always have to wear your these fancy black shoes- yeah. None of them had grip to save your ass Like you would have been a boot guy dancing on the floor.
Speaker 1:So it's nice to see that like at least, I feel like I'm sure those options existed, but I don't know. Back in 2012, you didn't really hear about them.
Speaker 2:Internet wasn't as but whites is also a really good brand. Jk boots is good. He sort of they called the Gateway drug to being a boot fan Shit Thursday boot company.
Speaker 1:Big boot boy make a lot of. That's where you got your.
Speaker 2:Thursday boot company makes a lot of really good boots. I bought a pair. Show them off for like two hundred dollars. I'm not putting my foot up on the boot off your foot.
Speaker 3:I got to untie it. This is a god.
Speaker 2:OK, this is. You know that's a lot of you know him this we don't go.
Speaker 2:And. But I bought a pair of Thursdays and that's what my first got me into boots. And then I found out that, even though I spent like two hundred dollars on these, these are like a lower tier boot compared to what what is actually out there. And I was like man. And then I realized that, like there's this channel called Rose Anvil on YouTube. He actually, like, cuts the boot open and he goes down the layers and explain why something is the way it is. And when you look at the inner layer of like a like a hundred dollar to two hundred fifty dollar boot versus the inner layer of like a five hundred to seven hundred fifty dollar boot, is a very noticeable difference. Is it like the thickness or?
Speaker 2:just how many layers how many layers of leather are. There is, like the thickness, like this is probably like like one ply, like a one point five millimeter, and then the like nicks, boots, they can make like a three millimeter like thickness on the edge, but like there's a lot that goes into it and also the quality of leather. So, like not all leather is equal. Like there's some leather companies that just depends on, like you know, where their source is coming from and like is it? There's like some plants in like Mexico that are a little bit lower end versus like one like, and then they'll like compare the leather side to side. Like how well they condition, how long they will stay good, wow, and like it's this whole world that I'm like getting into and I'm like I got, I've got sucked in so hard, everything, all your algorithms are, it's all boots and my wife was getting so mad because somehow got into her algorithm too, because her phone her.
Speaker 1:You're on the wife.
Speaker 2:So she's like oh my god, I got a boot. Review video.
Speaker 1:What about your spending habits?
Speaker 3:Well, I wanted to ask how, so that comparative, how close is a boot head to a sneaker head? What do you mean? Like you know, personality, well, like, not personality, but price wise. Like you find boots that are comparable price to, like you know, I know, the sneaker world is pretty crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean the sneaker world is more collectibles. I don't. I think more collectibles are meant to be worn, so these boots.
Speaker 2:They're pricey, but they're. It's not the same thing like if you're a sneaker person, like you're going to put these up and display them and never touch them. These boots are like you can spend like a ton of money you know $500 or more and they're meant to be used and abused like. They're not meant to just be a display item, gotcha. So, in a way, it's more utility. It's like yeah, I don't think I could get whatever it's once good for 20 years.
Speaker 2:I don't think I could ever get into something that I wouldn't be able to wear, you know. But like also, I'm not, you know, my, obviously I don't. I don't have like blue collar work, so like I don't, I don't wear my boots too hard, you know. But like, if you're like in any kind of blue collar work, you know, logging, construction, what have you? You are actually saving money Buying more expensive items, because if you buy like a hundred dollar pair of Timberlands, it's rare that you get that to last more than a year. You end up having to do that like Every six months to a year, and then if you buy like the highest quality pair of Knicks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you could be paying anywhere from 500 to 750 bucks, but you can get so much more life out of it that you get your money's worth after about like four to five years, and it's like and then re-solding yeah, I was just gonna say you could probably re-sold it, and yeah, it's already broken in, and there you go. So that's that's what I tell Tori.
Speaker 1:It's the. I'm trying to see that vertically for your blue collar work.
Speaker 2:Yeah you know, what I do is rough on on the, the old dog. Here's a lot of pacing a lot of back and forth. I don't know what it is about me, though. I do like I. I drag my feet a lot or something, but the where is he'll always Goes so quick, and every pair of dress shoes I've ever owned has only lasted me a couple months before it's just destroyed. Wow, and I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1:And then I bought their dress shoes Historically, for men are built like absolute dog shit. Yeah, they're terrible. I bought these just general.
Speaker 2:I agree with that. They have lasted so well and they're so good. And I even I even bought a Leather conditioner and cleaner and I was like trying to polish them up, yeah you're supposed to do it like once every six months. I started, yeah, and I was like I was like rubbing it and cleaning it and I was like wow, this is amazing Like and they look brand new. When I was done because I did everything the way you're supposed to I got the horse hair brush. I was cleaning this.
Speaker 1:He's got a whole section of this house that get his brother laces, I got a leather belt now.
Speaker 3:We're gonna get a motorcycle next no, not really a motorcycle guy.
Speaker 2:Are you gonna grow a bun man bun? No, absolutely not. No, I'm not. I'll try and avoid being like a hipster as much as. I can, I'd prefer to be looked at more as a gentleman as a gentleman, as a gentleman scholar. Thursday does make really good Like dress shoes that too, that I I haven't bought, but like they make like like leather dress shoes that are really nice. Again, those ones will last way better than anything you'd be able to buy in a store. How much are those?
Speaker 3:those are like between 150 200 that's not bad, honestly for dress shoe.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:Well, mine is only a single product that I've been looking at. I've been looking at getting the steam deck, which is it's the switch, but computer is probably the easiest way to describe it. So I've been looking at it because they recently did a an update on A lot of the technology inside the switch. As well as the screen, they move to an OLED screen and then they've also like up the the data Storage and then also like a lot of the battery life is gotten better. So I've been I've been really looking into getting that Especially. You know mine is a selfless purchase because I know how much Billy wants. You're really doing it for Billy.
Speaker 3:I'm really doing it for Billy I appreciate, so he wants to play with me.
Speaker 1:We have land parties and then you give me your device and then I don't have to look around the PC. You could play in your you know PlayStation. That's a good compromise.
Speaker 2:I think, to Getting around the whole PC thing. I think that's a steam deck.
Speaker 1:It's how you it's how you walk into it. Yeah, so the steam decks really cool because you can do. It's actually crazy that it even works in the first place of ten years ago when you try to play, because it runs Linux. From what I understand, I'm not that crazy into it, but when I understand it runs Linux, a version of Linux, and it basically they the way they've encoded this is it. It's able to kind of seamlessly, like Windows does, run the game, video games. So if you think about it like, mac isn't really known as a good gaming operating system. It's because, however, whenever you launch the game, it doesn't really like trying to run games intensively. You don't buy a Mac to game. Windows does a really good job of this.
Speaker 1:Linux was always really behind before you did it with like wine, I think it was called, and it would encode it correctly and you'd be able to run games, but it was always kind of clunky. Well, they've taken that and, like, made it amazing, applied it to literally the entire steam catalog of games. And then, addition to that, it still runs like Linux so you can go and download like Battle net or you know other game launchers, and play their games from their storms. So you could play.
Speaker 1:You know epic game, store games and you could play other. You know non steam games now I don't, as I think it was called. You could play other. You know non steam games now I don't, as if they run as well, I don't know, but it's cool to have those options, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I mean excited, we could finally play ballers gate.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I can download mods and we could play Elden Ring, maybe in time for the expansion finally to be.
Speaker 2:That's not coming out for the five years more than likely.
Speaker 1:We'll have to see how. The performance of it, because if you didn't play Elden Ring before because your computer was bad, I don't know how, like if you run it on desktop mode because, remember, it's only running on like 800p. So, if it scales up to your 4k monitor or your, you know, 1080 like we looked up.
Speaker 2:It'll be interesting. We looked up Elden Ring on steam deck at one point or watch it and it looked like seamless.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you're dealing with a snob over here. That's. He's the unpredictable.
Speaker 3:Okay, my computer. I had it on the lowest quality possible, like that's how I had to have it but it ran great, didn't it it?
Speaker 2:I didn't know that you were, you cared about that stuff. Yeah, all right, I am. I thought you cared about having fun.
Speaker 3:No, I am the worst with like. What is it when you're frozen, with indecision, oh, oh. Analysis, paralysis. Yeah, like I just recently restarted Baldur's Gate it's a little side tangent here, but I've created like five characters in that game. Oh God, because I don't know what class I want to do and at that point I didn't know if I didn't know about withers who's who's a guy you can pay to redo your class. I didn't know about that, so.
Speaker 4:I may multi-class yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I, I just restarted every time because, like I don't like how this one feels, I want somebody you know different. And then I'm now on a warlock and I like that. But I have huge analysis, paralysis, spider-man 2, now that I beat it, I switch between outfits Constantly. I'm like I like this one. No, I want to switch to this one. Let me see about this one. I'm horrible.
Speaker 2:I On a game like Baldur's Gate on spider-man, I relate 100%. I'm always switching my outfits and stuff. But a game like Baldur's Gate like once I find something I like which usually is pretty quick Um, I'll do multiple playthroughs of the same thing.
Speaker 3:Well see, I just didn't find what I liked in Baldur's Gate, like because I tried ranger.
Speaker 2:Um, I tried the fighter class, yeah, and those were the only two I tried really I've always loved barbarian and any any time I've had that as an option to choose. Barbarian has always been kind of my favorite approach to that type of game. This is fun. I like smash yeah, I like smash and barbarians also like. Especially, you can get super op in. Baldur's Gate is a barbarian like. You can get to a point where you're like attacking six times per turn, like, and you can just get through a really good output. You could. You could be like a boss almost in one round, especially like. My party never changes, unless it like I need it to for like a story purpose. But other than that, I always have carlac lazele, shadow heart, and me, uh, my character. So you have like three and that, so I have two barbarians and then like uh kind of a ranged warrior and then my magic person, and I have yet to run into any problem.
Speaker 2:I can't handle with that dynamic. Damn yeah, and I was like is it weird that it's just me and my three?
Speaker 4:warrior chicks.
Speaker 2:Just like get me through everything. It's my crew, it's my crew.
Speaker 3:So what about you, billy? What's your money?
Speaker 1:Hole. I do this with everything I, I, I, I get this. I'm kind of it's bad what I do with product. It's great and I would not. I'm not going to change because I love it, but it's so.
Speaker 1:It is like an addiction, because it's like, okay, there's like a certain dollar amount that if I spend over that, I want to make sure I think I apply this to all dollar amount purchases. But there's a certain dollar amount where I'm like if, and it's like probably around 100, 150 bucks, and if I go over that, I'm going off into a deep dive of like what is the marketplace? What are the features that exist? Who makes the best products? And like I will go and scout out the best offerings that the world has to provide and I will find forums and conversations.
Speaker 1:Like I will find niche groups, like my favorite thing, like right now, is cookware Okay, and I will find like the subreddit forum for just like people who who are like professional chefs or like enthusiasts themselves to go and like figure that out and and like what's the best that the world has offer for cookware products? And you know, I have nose dived off to that. I have nose dived off into Concrete sub forums like trying to figure out, like how can I min max Concrete as I pour it and deal with it. Like what should I be asking for what? What should it? You know, like if I'm spending a amount of money, I'm gonna research the ever-living shit out of it. Irrigation tools for my, for my Arsenal of tools that I have.
Speaker 2:I just do everything, though, not even stuff that you spend money on like. So, for instance, we could be like oh, we're gonna start playing this new board game together. And then we'll talk about it and then, like the next day or the day before we're gonna do it, you're like so I've just spent a hundred hours researching this I now know more than the most of divinity, divinity, original sin.
Speaker 3:We didn't even play. And he's like guys, I have so much I, I know everything. I've been farming mushrooms.
Speaker 2:I have 20,000 gold.
Speaker 1:I was like adding water and like seeds and shit and it was like refreshing every you know Three minutes or whatever. And I'm harvesting and I'm like we're gonna be so rich. These guys are gonna be so set up. They could guy buy whatever they want. I don't know why I'm like that it's. It's like it's so beautiful, but it's it's not a curse in the sense of like, oh, because I will. If it's a timely thing, I will make a decision, or I'll just spend the two hours Whatever I need to do to make a decision. So I'm not like plagued by I've never been that I'm very decisive when I do ultimately decide, but it is like I am willing.
Speaker 1:My brain is like you're spending your harder money. You will absolutely buy the best thing that your, your money has to offer and you'll know why it's the best. I feel like that's almost more valuable. Like how many times you buy a product and then you you like realize three months into using it or whatever, that you're like, oh, that's what that's for. Or like those hidden features on shit. You're like, oh, I wish I would have known that. You know, like there's little things like in tools or whatever.
Speaker 1:It is like, oh, if I, you know, one of my favorite like think things to do research on is like tools. It's like, okay, what? Here's my budget, what can I min max for this? It's like, okay, here's the, here's the shell that I'm buying it within this thing. Okay, and I have these different tiers. I can go cheaper on the actual tool and then go crazy with the accessories. Like, if I'm thinking of, like a Table saw, right, I can buy a couple different jigs, a couple different tools to, like you know, different arms, different locking mechanisms, whatever it is, larger table, stronger blade, whatever it is. And then you kind of you kind of understand, okay, within this price range, here's the features that I can access, which ones are valuable to me, which ones are my willing? That don't apply to me and never will, because there's a lot of times I will be either pushed up or pushed down in price tiers if there's features that I know I will never use.
Speaker 1:And so, like, just investigating that like I, just I enjoy it because it's like it's a world just like you were talking about with your boots. It's a world you've never even thought of, but there's such a strong, passionate community around it that when you start kind of figuring it out. It's like, oh my god, that's like really important. That's amazing that that's included. I never thought about not having. And then you learn about shoes. Everybody wears shoes, but Kyle now is understands probably shoes better than you and I and he's like boots yeah boots right and how they work and and like the artist, artistry and and and Creativeness around them.
Speaker 1:It's kind of like you get to step into this new world and I'm like that with tools, with anything I'm doing in my life at that point, like I just dive a nose, dive into it.
Speaker 2:It's crazy for a while I super weirdly got into bodybuilding.
Speaker 3:Plate no plates no dates right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but like just the fitness, like world in general and it's not something I ever even practiced, but like I got so into it and I was like watching like all these different like videos and like how to, you know, build Certain, like what kind of workouts to build certain muscles, and I was watching these documentaries and all these old bodybuilders and different approaches and all this kind of stuff and like it just dominated my feed for a while and I got super into that world. But like it never translated to anything I was gonna do in real life, like I never actually felt compelled to go out and work Out but I loved watching I that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3:I understand that I watch the core door digital like VFX videos. Yeah, I don't ever do anything with VFX, but I find it's so fascinating to watch, to both learn about the history of it but then also see like the current technology of it. It's so cool like I downloaded this app and I can scan something on my phone and it builds like a digital Version of it just for me, taking a bunch of pictures and I'm like that's, that is pretty cool.
Speaker 3:You can do a lidar of your room, so you can like scan out your room just by Scanning it, and then it builds a 3d virtual Representation of it.
Speaker 1:How does it do? How do you do lidar?
Speaker 3:It uses your camera to To figure out the distance, and then it builds out a map and it's the supers.
Speaker 1:It's so smart, cuz um how does your phone have the sensors to be able to? It doesn't have lidar sensors. It did it, I did it, I.
Speaker 3:Can, I could show you.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm not doubting that you have it, but I'm not like I'm trying to understand, like that's just using, like that's just got to be using, like visual Computer vision, like I don't know, because there's no lidar sensors.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it must have been computer vision it. It did everything really good, except for this was kind of cool the mirror it like it tried to distance through it. But otherwise the room matched the specification it had. Like the camera it has these these blue squares on areas that like it needs for you to like Scan and so you kind of fill out the room, fill in the map Mm-hmm and it plans it out, but it keeps the shape.
Speaker 3:Like I took I did a room and it kept the shape. I kept the couch, kept the table, like what did you do with this? Nothing, that's what I mean. I'm not me.
Speaker 1:I'm not a vfx artist but I find that so cool and just in the hand, power your hand in my phone I can do that.
Speaker 3:That's unbelievable.
Speaker 2:When my wife catches me watching boot videos. Now that's me the meat.
Speaker 4:Just hanging around. I'm gonna fix the camera blurry.
Speaker 1:Let's stop talking to make it awkward now I feel like a I don't know. I love the way that I do like research into products because I think I more. I think at the end of the day, I appreciate them more.
Speaker 4:There you go.
Speaker 2:I that's good.
Speaker 1:I appreciate them more After I do that like heavy lift effort to to buying something. Yeah and for whatever reason, that type of knowledge of, like what something does, or you know the features of it and and the expandability and how modular I'm telling you right now.
Speaker 2:There's so much that goes into a good boot that if I just showed you the right video, you be in that world. I it's like dangerous man Fract to me and then you'd be looking at other people like you know what, babe, I need a boot. I don't even know what I need a boot for I'm actually at the point now. We're like if I see Timberlin boots.
Speaker 2:It's just like I'm like what a joke. Like it's like you're a purist already. It's not like and I love my Timberlins that I have, but they're just not respected in the boot community.
Speaker 1:What's what's funny is like I say this, but there's also things that it doesn't translate to like beer, like micro brews and wine. Yeah, I have no appreciation for like Microbrew, because that's a whole world that you can get into right, both on the beer side, the micro brew side and this side, and it's like I don't, like I will never appreciate the effort that went into that, that micro brew beer. No, I got away with hiking boots. I'm not outdoorsy whatsoever. Yeah, you get sucked into. Yeah, I was with Kyle. I watched bodybuilder I still do every once in a while like Brian Shaw and a lot of like the, the world's strongest man stuff not so much bodybuilding, but like strongman stuff, because that, to me, is just such a fascinating sport. I haven't touched a weight in 20 years. I Was 10 when I did. I.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. I I guess I'm the same way as you as far as like when I get into community I get into a Community. I've never felt the urge to get into like a micro brew such wine wine but like meats Steak and like barbecue, yeah, same thing. I. Get super hooked into that, and I'm still in that world too. Right now, my two big fandoms are boots and meat. Like you wanted to, you want to take another you want to talk about falling off the deep end knives.
Speaker 1:Knives, yeah row. And I was doing all this research, I found out like one of my favorite companies to buy knives and I told my wife. I said, when I hit my weight goal I'm gonna be doing a whole kitchen overhaul and I'm starting with a basic set of knives, because we have good ones. We do have good ones, but I want like a, I want like a their, their production, and they don't really fit my hands and after after a while it like I do feel the like fatigue a little bit, because I actually cook a lot. So, yeah, it just doesn't feel like it's not. The chef's knife that I have is is to, it's not big enough, and so it's a good set.
Speaker 1:It was a great starter set, but now I'm kind of I'm a purist now anyway, I found out that one of like the, the company that I decided to buy from, is local, really yes, and I was like, absolutely, I'm gonna go and do that you can go and go to the, go see their like display and they'll set you up with like a custom set and stuff. Now you can go crazy with like the different types of woods that you put in the handles and stuff, but really I'm just going there for like performance of the actual steel itself.
Speaker 2:But nobody makes knives like the Japanese. Their knives are insane. They do it like, like, like katana style. Yeah, they'll straight up like do like a thousand folds, fold, steel that Damascus, like their Damascus and they'll do real.
Speaker 1:But Damascus, sometimes they I've seen knockoffed as Damascus, where they, they just Compressed layers, they don't fold them, they just stick them together and then they, they basically just file them flat. Yeah and then they carve an edge into them and that's fake the mask.
Speaker 2:I saw this one demonstration where they Forget which company was. But they're this nice that they constructed and then literally like, with just like the slightest downward force and a little Slice, they can go through a whole phone book.
Speaker 1:It was insane, that's crazy and I'm like that's yeah and then, like, when you really start learning about like sharpness, because then you then you find out that there's scales, yeah, and how to measure in all this shit, and then you find out that like there's there's like a happy place between Sharpness and durability. Right, if you get too sharp, then the the, the edge of the blade is too frail and it doesn't hold up over time. So it's like there's like that happy medium. So it's like what do you want? Do you want like the sharpest freaking knife ever, or do you want something that's like durable and so, like I started doing research and I found out like a lot of Japanese knives are Damascus or like carbon steel and I.
Speaker 1:So this is where I deep, deep dive what the fuck's carbon steel, and it's like the purist community gets way into about freaking carbon steel and even in the pots and pans, same thing, kitchenware stuff, carbon steel is like this big thing. But then you start reading like it's downsides, like one. It looks beautiful and it's really that's what the big pool is. It looks beautiful and it's like performance is pretty good, but it's it's a reactive, fucking corrosive metal. So if you have like acidic food in it, even with the knife, your food will. It's going to react with a blade and so you'll have like a metallic taste on your food and you're like, oh, okay. And then you start reading about like what it what's required to maintain carbon steel, and you're like, and and this is where me like I'm not like looking to be into the art of carbon steel knives where I'm gonna be fucking sharpening and cleaning and fucking rustle, liam, my blade every two months.
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 1:I want something again. It's like function and performance as I'm conditioning my boots?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I Want something that's hairbrush going to be extremely functional with low maintenance and so, like, once I took that nosedive into what carbon steel is, I got really excited for a minute. I'm like, oh, I'm getting carbon steel blade. And then I started seeing like some of the downsides and like what's required to maintaining those pots and pans or knives, and you're like, oh, I'm never going to do that. Like that's, there's no way. It's like, oh, you can't cook anything like tomatoes based in your For too long in your, in your carbon steel pan, because it'll react with the acid in the tomato and it'll your shit will taste Metallic and I'm like that nullifies anything. That that's cool, I'm like it's. I can just imagine the doucheery of like somebody coming over like my wife cooking in the kitchen oh babe, you're using that pan for a tomato soup. Well, you see, there's correct.
Speaker 2:It you know I even has like exactly other than it's just for looks and yeah. To say you have a carbon steel something, because and again it is.
Speaker 1:It is absolutely beautiful and it does perform well, but it's no, it's Functionality wise, it's limited. So it's like, again, you get so niche into these different products that you you get like you have to choose which pillar, like here's your pillar of features, what are you optimizing for? Because you're never gonna find that like balanced, you know, unless that's unless we start master of none.
Speaker 1:Yeah exactly, hey, exactly yeah, master you want. You want a master of none when it comes to like these things. In my opinion, that's how I see it. I want the master, I want it good at everything, can do anything, but it's not like Ultra like, because, again, like it might be, it might perform better in the sharpness test. But what's better? 1% better in reality, like. Is that worth you having to like? Get your, your carbon steel Professionally treated every time you accidentally use it with a tomato or something like that's just crazy to me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that is insane.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I I'm not. I've never been in the cookware cookware fandom, but I do like cooking and I love watching cooking videos. But I never actually like by myself assessing the tools they're using for that.
Speaker 1:I Love a good, because I came from the restaurant background and I saw professional chefs with their, their quality tools and it always like it's amazing, like just as a good stainless steel set, like Learning about stainless steel, and like I've always used like Teflon coated stuff, like non-stick stuff, and I always have accused my wife of like you keep using metal utensils in my freaking Pants and she's like no, I'm not. And I'm like where are these scratch marks coming from?
Speaker 2:just weak material.
Speaker 1:Dude, teff, dude, get this. So we bought this. We didn't buy, we were gifted this at our wedding. A very Cathlon is the name of the brand very solid brand of non-stick, full set, hundreds of dollars shout out my friends who bought it, thank you. So that is sarcastic. So thank you, so thank you. They were great for about a year and they've been. What now that I know what is happening? It's breaking down. Teflon. That nonstick coating only lasts for like a year or two and you're never and I did not know this again. You just think it's a pot and pan. I've used nonstick my whole life with you know, growing up as kid. You're not supposed to use nonstick pans in high heat situations. I always it's the only pans I own and I sear steak all the fucking time. That's literally the highest heat that you can get and you're dropping. And so what I'm seeing is the Teflon actually breaking down and breaking off, which is like Teflon is a very toxic chemical.
Speaker 4:And it's going into your food.
Speaker 2:I'm consuming it.
Speaker 1:And so I'm like learning about this and I'm like holy shit and like you think about it like stainless steel is like the most basic thing ever, but it is like you do have to clean it and it isn't nonstick. It's not as nice as you can't throw an egg in there and move it around. It's not as sexy, but it lasts for fucking. Oh, it could be. It is sexy and that's what I came right by. Professional chefs all had nonsticks. I had all stainless steel sets and their pot there. The way that they treated their knives and their, their equipment was like that was like their children.
Speaker 2:It was amazing to see a lot of them treated better than their children.
Speaker 1:So, anyway, that was a cool story about Teflon and all you people who don't know. But I'm like learning about this, I'm like you're welcome. I thought my wife just fucked up and used a metal whisk. Yes, you know, and if the whole time it's literally just breaking down.
Speaker 2:I love it. She's like I'm not. You're like you must be fucking.
Speaker 3:I'm like I didn't do anything.
Speaker 1:You did.
Speaker 2:I know I didn't fucking up.
Speaker 1:Well, because yeah, yeah her defense she does. Yeah, use that, but anyway.
Speaker 3:Jinglebee says you can 100% do that with a stainless steel pan if you give it time to pre heat.
Speaker 1:In terms of what using it like to slide the egg around. Is that what you're referencing. I've never used. Yeah, thank you, there's there. She is chiming in. I never used a metal whisk. I know, I know and I forgive you, babe, I forgive you, I know. It's not you, it's, it's the damn pan. Our pans are breaking down, our pans are breaking down.
Speaker 2:And I need to spend $1500 on an all clad set, and that's my we need some new pots and pans at my house where they're all starting just kind of give up on life a little bit. We have some good ones, but I would definitely. I would definitely if I had the money go all out, for sure.
Speaker 1:Well, it's one like I, like you buy a stain like that. Stainless steel doesn't have a coning at all, so it's literally. It will last you the rest of your life. There's nothing to maintain, it's just steel with enough butter, anything is possible.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:But how fucking did you guys know that? No did you know? Did you know that non stick pans literally on if you're regularly cooking with it lasts at most two years? That's crazy.
Speaker 2:My cooking mind is fucking blown. My cooking knowledge is kind of restricted to like grill, grilling and cast iron and that's such a fun thing to dive into to grilling, smoking like that's a whole universe, although I do watch this guy on YouTube. His name is chef Jean Pierre.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:And my parents actually got me hooked on this guy. That's the happy guy, right.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He's a mission star chef like he's legit, but his videos are always just very approachable and friendly for the layman.
Speaker 1:I don't think when it comes to cooking do you know how many Michelin stars Gordon Ramsay is up to?
Speaker 2:Oh God, he has like 40 or something crazy, but that's like mind blowing.
Speaker 4:All of his restaurants combined.
Speaker 2:You know what a Michelin stars yeah.
Speaker 1:But that's all the stuff that's combined.
Speaker 2:So like his I think his is that the most ever maybe, but like it's more they're not so much impressed by that as they are like when it's here. You know, like if one restaurant has two to three is much more impressive than a bunch of one mission. Not that that's not impressive.
Speaker 1:So he doesn't have any three star. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I know he had a few two star ones. I don't know if he has any three star restaurants.
Speaker 3:Have you guys ever been to a Michelin star restaurant?
Speaker 1:Never there, there's nowhere. I can't like it's.
Speaker 2:I think there's one in Tahoe, that's one, one star.
Speaker 1:I think that would be news to me. That would be news to me. I don't know, because the close one is there is there was one in Carmel. Definitely yeah, I think there's two in Carmel that we didn't go to but the closest one to where we live is a three star one and it's out in the woods and it's like it's on the farm where they harvest all the ingredients and it's like this whole thing, yeah, and I'm like all right, it's literally $600 a person.
Speaker 3:There is a mission, there is one.
Speaker 1:What's it? Can you tell me the name of it? Could Google it? Well, yeah, but we can. We have an audience.
Speaker 2:Let's all sit in silence while we wait.
Speaker 1:Jinglebees is our Google. I'm curious because I've always done, I've always looked it up, but I don't. I didn't think there was, but there's a. I thought it was the three star one. Anyway, it's in the woods and they had they. It's on the farm that they harvest all the ingredients from and that's the closest, besides the Tahoe one.
Speaker 3:Where's this one?
Speaker 1:I don't, when last time I looked, there wasn't one in Tahoe, no, but where's the the forest? Like in northern California.
Speaker 4:In one of the casinos.
Speaker 3:I think Jinglebees says yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm going to hit that doubt button. So I'm a doubt.
Speaker 2:The yellow submarine sandwich shop yeah. Okay, michelin guide. Okay, I'm on their guide.
Speaker 1:I can just type in yeah, I can just type in the zip code and see what you type in the zip code.
Speaker 2:I'll just look up Tahoe. I don't know Tahoe zip code, south Lake, tahoe, california.
Speaker 1:Well, while he's doing that, what do you think about spending Legitimately like this three star place? I think when I looked it up it was $400 or $500 a plate, so you pay per plate and then you get. You get all the courses, whatever you get, like. You pay a seat, I guess At least $400, and that doesn't include, like, any drink or whatever you want.
Speaker 4:A plate.
Speaker 1:Yes, and so it. Then you get like all these it's a seat, so it's not a plate. It's like a seat, so like you get. So the food is part of that price yes, okay, yeah, and then you get the full dining experience. Yeah, but my thing is like what's that? What's that chef, that older chef Kyle that you hate, that like you think is an asshole or whatever, the pure white or something, or I don't know, chef white.
Speaker 2:Well, there's Marco, pure white. Oh, yes, I don't hate him though.
Speaker 1:Oh, I always thought you were like, didn't like him. No, I think he's very entertaining.
Speaker 2:I do think Marco pure white is his name. Yeah, I do think he's a little eccentric.
Speaker 1:He's eccentric but like I don't hate the guy. So that guy, marco pure white, he made a point on like a interview once that really is always stuck with me, like he, what they've done when these to achieve those is they they reduce. So you have like 36 courses Like that's like a standard thing that they do, like that's a Okay, that's a lot of courses.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So the portion size of those courses is like a bite. And to his point, which I always identify, I would rather have like eight courses that are really high quality, that take you through, like whatever the story is that you know you want to be exposed to. But when you because when you get to that small, what happens is heat retention becomes almost impossible. So like you're probably, it's probably not going to be like as as warm as it should be, and then also you're literally having one bite. So there's not like you can't enjoy it, like I like a big steak, because it's like I can have six, seven eight bites and really savor that, like if I'm eating this little chip or whatever.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's it, I'm done. Oh, pork, you know like how much flavor am I really getting in there with this little bite? There was a one star one and talk of that closed down, okay.
Speaker 2:So now the closest is Sacramento. Sacramento has a bunch. I would not have guessed that. That doesn't seem like it would be a Okay, but obviously, as you can imagine, there's a bunch in San Francisco as well. Oh, I'm sure yeah.
Speaker 1:Anything on the coast of Cali.
Speaker 3:My thing with with spending that much on food is that I went to a pricey restaurant I went to. I did probably I don't think it had any Michelin stars, but it was a multiple course meal and I can honestly say it was fun experience, but I've had better food for a heck of a lot cheaper, and so that's my thing is like if I'm gonna spend that much, I need to know it's gonna be something that I can't normally get Like. They gave this compliments of the chef. They said it came out as this little jelly thing. It was like a jelly cube with like sugar on it. Presentation look cool, tasted it? It tasted exactly like Smucker's Strawberry Jelly. I was like this is Smucker's.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 2:Well, with a name like Smucker's.
Speaker 3:Smucker has to be good.
Speaker 1:But so that that's they get weird.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's a Make it something that I can't normally eat.
Speaker 1:Well, there's some restaurants like I've seen one on YouTube that the dessert is like a, a puff of smoke. That's like sweet like candy or something. It's like tastes like cotton candy or something, and they like pop this smoke in your face and do this whole thing.
Speaker 2:And you're like I think that shit's ridiculous. The Michelin Star rating system has kind of lost its way a bit Now. It seems to be like like you know what's the most eccentric, but also like the skill that it takes to create something Like they do all of that now. But originally the Michelin Star system was it was for tires. It was created well, it is the tire company. But the reason it was created was if it was given a Michelin Star, that means how far were you willing to go off the beaten path or travel to go to this place? And so if you had a three Michelin Stars, that was Michelin saying basically, how far are you willing to travel to go to this place? Three Michelin Stars means you should go here.
Speaker 1:So it should be you would go to this place to go here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it should be ultimately about the quality of taste. It should be the most important thing, right, I mean. But now it's not that anymore. Now it's all just this hoity-toity.
Speaker 1:We're here for the experience and it's like you know. I want the best creative steak you've got. Give me a six ounce piece of meat or something. The best.
Speaker 2:I've said this before, I think I've even said it's on the podcast, but the best restaurant meatwise I've ever been to is House of Prime Rib. It's not even, doesn't even have one star, but God wouldn't experience so good, so good, so good.
Speaker 1:I'm not even a prime rib guy, but that says sound good.
Speaker 2:If we ever go to prime rib, we're ever gonna we're ever gonna San Francisco as a group.
Speaker 3:We gotta get reservations. We will.
Speaker 2:It's like those are like a month out, though, so we'd have to do it in advance and, if it's easily, if you're like eating cheap, it's like $100.
Speaker 1:That wouldn't even blink. It's probably double that now For experience like that. I wouldn't even blink.
Speaker 4:I hate-.
Speaker 1:Oh, Tori's in on it. Din Tai Fung was the bomb Din Tai Fung is so good.
Speaker 3:Have you guys ever been?
Speaker 1:No, what is that?
Speaker 3:So it's a dim sum place. It's a chain restaurant. No, the closest one is in San Jose. It was started in Taiwan and then it's like it's a chain. It's in a lot of Southern California, that's in Vegas, but it's do you guys know what dim sum is? So it's that you know. It's like the-.
Speaker 3:Doe ball Doe balls with the meat and stuff, but it's just, it's everything is high quality, like you order and it's like all you can eat, sushi type. It's not all you can eat, but like they give you the sheet of paper and you just write down what you want. They bring it out and it's like, ooh, sounds pretty good. It's really good. I recommend it. They have these Xiao Long Bao, which is like where it has the meat and then the soup broth inside and it's that. It's that doe ball. But they have for dessert. They have a chocolate Xiao Long Bao. Oh, my God, it's so good.
Speaker 1:Shit. All right, it's like I've never been a big dim sum guy, but it sounds like this one with your balls on. I think this one with change of mind I've been called dim before.
Speaker 2:is that count?
Speaker 3:Some dim, some dim guy.
Speaker 2:Soup dumplings. Soup dumplings.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Carmel, for me, had like the best dining experience ever.
Speaker 1:Do Carmel, Monterey Bay, those special places on Earth?
Speaker 2:Tori and I are talking about making that a yearly thing.
Speaker 3:Yearly trip.
Speaker 2:That's how much of a good time we had.
Speaker 3:What restaurant was your favorite there?
Speaker 2:I forget the name now, but we went to two different steak houses and an Italian place and, man, we spent a ton of money. Worth it. But the second restaurant we went to was a steak house and it was really, really good and I got a oh God, I'm gonna butcher it Steak Poivre, r R Poivre. It's like a peppercorn steak. I can never say that it's French.
Speaker 1:Appoix.
Speaker 2:Appoix.
Speaker 1:I think I know what you're talking about?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but oh my God, it was so good and the people that own that restaurant. We actually had a chance to talk to them. It was their second attempt in opening the restaurant, because the first time they went to open it, they opened the restaurant in March of 2020.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, and so they opened it and immediately like had to shut down. They made no money, and so then they did it again and it was they were super dead. It was like us to maybe one other person, so like the owner was like talking to us and stuff, but it was one of the best steaks I've ever had. It was so good. And there was a bottle of wine that I was so tempted to buy Just to say I did. It was like a $1,500 bottle of wine.
Speaker 3:In Jesus.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not even kidding. Obviously I didn't do that, but that was like that was not super uncommon for some of the stuff that these restaurants had.
Speaker 1:It was insane. I'm at the point where, like I've learned again I've done that nose dive off into, like, the steak world that I know exactly how I want it and I know what type of meat I like. I know exactly how I want it and I know the restaurant's technique on how to accomplish that, that like I'm less incentivized to order a steak when I go out, but if there is like something unique about their steak where they have like you know some sauce that it's like that it comes with or whatever.
Speaker 1:That's where you'll get me, because I don't make sauces or anything. I don't really have. Some of those steak sauces like demi-glace and stuff take like 12 hours, like no joke 12 hours to prepare, cause you're just reducing and reducing, and reducing and reducing and so like there's a place here locally that does like a black and prime rib and I'm not a prime rib guy, but the way that they do this is it comes out more like a rib eye because they sear it on each side and then they add this like apple glaze on top oh my God. And it has like this, this apple jam or something like that, and it just with this like really creative butter on top. I don't even remember what it is. It's just, it's literally flawless, it's so good and that kind of stuff I can't do at my house.
Speaker 1:Yeah but the steak preparation, like, if you're just going to be like we got a great rib eye, sorry, I'm not going to do that. But if you have like, if there's something that adds a character, adds an element of character to your meat, then I'm all in, I'll go for that shit. So I went. I'm fucking hungry now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I went to a meat too.
Speaker 2:I'm like thinking about steak, yeah, I know Like this is bad.
Speaker 3:I went down to California Bridgeport, california Bridgeport, yeah, and we stated this it's called I don't want to name Blastom actually- Because you're out to shit on them.
Speaker 2:It's how they're okay.
Speaker 3:The place itself. The place you stay is super cute. They got these cabins, it's right on the creek and it's beautiful. But we go like there's not much there besides this place and, like the town of Bridgeport, we learned, during the winter every store shuts down besides two, and that's the hunting store and the general store, and it's like, wow, okay, so there's nothing, like there's no McDonald's. So we go to eat dinner. I'd never eat dinner here before Like a cafe, it's like a bed and breakfast, okay, and it's like the only place in town.
Speaker 3:And it's not even in town, it's just where we're staying.
Speaker 1:Wherever you're at, yeah.
Speaker 3:So, first off, we're alone, we're the only people there. Like it is both for breakfast and for dinner.
Speaker 1:We're there multiple times.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cause we went there. Their breakfast is decent, but I ordered a New York steak oh, bad move Medium rare. And then Junkabee's ordered oh, tell me in chat. But anyways, they come out and we were looking at the menu, right, and it's like I think it was a prime rib. But Rib-Eye. Rib-eye. So for a dollar more you could get the rib-Eye with their special seasoning, it said. And we're like that's stupid Special seasoning, yeah. And so we're like let's just get the regular.
Speaker 1:Wait, wait, an extra dollar to have it, your steak's, seasoned.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna get there. Yeah, that's what it ended up being. Is that my steak and hers came out no seasoning. It was just meat, grilled meat, and it was like oh Okay, this is just meat.
Speaker 2:You should have bought the seasoning. I know.
Speaker 3:And so, yeah, it was. So I'm curious, and it was great, what made you?
Speaker 1:It was great, yeah. What the oh no? Did they just like bake it? Then it was not good oh no, that sounds like they baked it, because not having seasoning on steak is fine as long as you're doing still like black pepper and salt, like those are.
Speaker 3:There was no salt or pepper on it. We had to add our own from the table. And then they, like I don't know how, they even messed up butter. They gave me butter with like a mashed potato. I put the butter in there it was like the saltless butter, I think, or some and then change it.
Speaker 2:It was like this flavorless it's like when you watch a Guga video where he like, where he like suvides, the steak and that's what I imagined, and he's like. I know it doesn't look good now, but watch this. But he doesn't do that part, he just gives it. Oh God.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it was, it was rough.
Speaker 4:It was.
Speaker 1:That's that my artifact is so poor. What?
Speaker 2:made you want to stay in Bridgeport Out of curiosity, because I've driven through that a bunch. And I've never been like.
Speaker 3:I got to stay here. I would recommend the place I stay for the cabins. The cabins they're fairly affordable, like 100. This is the weekend price 150 a night. You get a whole cabin to yourself. And the like. The one we had is technically a three bed because we have our. You get a full size bed and then there's two bunk beds and then, if there's a kitchen, there's a sink.
Speaker 2:You're welcome, just him, jinglebee and you, I got the bunk bed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got the bunk bed, you wouldn't mind, would you Jinglebee?
Speaker 3:But they have out front of your cabin. You have a fire pit, you have a barbecue set up and it's a super cute place. And the reason I originally found out about it is because there's hot springs pretty close to Bridgeport. And then I just found out that that place to stay is really cute and it's right next to the river, like right next to the river, and then we learned there was another hot springs there too. We found out about it and it's just, it's a cool place to go to just do hot springs and kind of just get away.
Speaker 2:I will we should go on a road trip. We've been talking about it no-transcript, I already said it but, like Carmel, I feel like that'd be really cool for us as a group, as a group.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so separate from the boys trip.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so boys trip, Carmel's not the destination.
Speaker 1:I was like boys trip, we don't go to Carmel, but I look good If we, you know we go on like a trip with, like you know, our families.
Speaker 2:That's what this is. Carmel would be a good destination.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I'm so down for that. Monterey Bay is one of my favorite places to go.
Speaker 2:Carmel Country Inn Should look it up. After this, we stayed. There is amazing.
Speaker 3:Fuck yeah. So that's one of the hot springs we found.
Speaker 2:Okay, that is really cool, I'd sit right on the edge and then there's a river Beautiful.
Speaker 1:No funny business there right.
Speaker 3:What do you mean? I'm just kidding. There's naked people.
Speaker 1:Oh God.
Speaker 3:Were you one of them.
Speaker 2:No, Well then, what fun was it really?
Speaker 3:I was a one of the hot springs is right next to the river and it's cold river and then hot spring and I went out and got the river and then a guy did it after me because he saw me do it. The male, you set the trend, the male, yeah.
Speaker 2:I was like I need to do what other men do, I do it better.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I stay in cold water longer Damn man Our listeners agree with the road trip idea.
Speaker 1:No, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2:There's no more. We have an idea.
Speaker 1:And they're all. What about a cruise? I'm dude, a cruise would be fun to Carmel A little bit more less prep time. The thing about the thing about cruises If we wanted to, like, we could do a kind of done with like the California cruises, because you either go to Alaska, which we've already got and I've done the fucking I've done three times.
Speaker 2:I can't.
Speaker 1:I can't do it twice. I can't do it so like if we did want to commit to a cruise or Louisiana or Orlando, or Orlando Miami or Canaveral. Yeah, tampa Bay.
Speaker 2:So it's like but that, that that turns the trip from like you know just four or five hundred bucks a person to two fifteen hundred a person, yeah, so that really ups the price if we go out of like Galveston and New Orleans two extra days for travel, yeah. It would be doable, but you know I'd have to dip into the college fund, the college fund, you go with that victory.
Speaker 1:She's like I didn't even know about that fun, so just kidding.
Speaker 2:I I like the idea of of Carmel because, like I said, that's a lot cheaper and it's still an amazing it's by the beach, there's good restaurants, but I also love refers to one of the most favorite places the Deutsche itable.
Speaker 1:Two to that's the best kind of a Quanou and because want's your own you just. You're so worried about a damn thing. I never have it reconoc exploring, more than when I'm on a cruise. The phone goes in the room, I forget about reality.
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Speaker 1:Rawa I. What about a Mexico? There's multiple Mexicas. What about a Mexico? What?
Speaker 2:about be Mexico. I'm more of a C tier Mexico kind of guy myself.
Speaker 4:C tier Mexico.
Speaker 1:I'm not a big guy like the all-inclusives really don't sell me. I'm not a big man.
Speaker 2:I'm a tiny man.
Speaker 1:Okay, the all-inclusive, like Mexico trip. I I Hear there a lot of fun I don't. I've never really done one personally.
Speaker 2:Have you got?
Speaker 1:knock it, Hmm, but I don't think it's me no.
Speaker 2:I. There are a couple of really nice resorts that I felt like when I've been to Cosimo, where I'm like man, they'd be cool to kind of just come here, but I Love the fact that cruising just exposes you to all of these things as Well, and there's so much shit to do, they're throwing it in your face.
Speaker 1:Yeah, mexican cruise, like all those ports that we mentioned, besides, maybe, the ones out of Florida.
Speaker 2:They all stop a landing, at least one spot You'll hit Mexico. Belize Cosmo Rotan.
Speaker 1:Got my wife talking shit to me. Par for the course you pick is hey boy. You say hey boy, yeah, she's got way better street cred than me.
Speaker 3:That's why, billy, right now I'm reminded of your story about when you first started Guild Wars.
Speaker 1:My full name. Oh, dude, yeah, goaded. Go to absolute legend.
Speaker 3:Is there some that go out of LA?
Speaker 1:Well, that's what we were talking about, like there are. Yeah, it's really limited. I think maybe See there's people that haven't experienced that though. But you'll end up doing the two ports that Kyle and I've done Collectively five times and it's like one of them is a total shithole.
Speaker 2:I do know it's kind of neat. I do love Catalina. I agree it's the only place in the United States that feels like you're in Europe, the way that the the town is kind of built and you're like a two-minute bike ride, a Wait like from disconnecting, or like you can even rent like a golf cart.
Speaker 1:You're like two minutes from completely disconnecting from reality and like you're in the hills with all this lush. It's really kind of cool story. That's what like it's a tiny island, like it's very, very small.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but you're there for eight hours.
Speaker 2:It's not like you know, it's not like you can. Eight hours is a good time to spend in Catalina. I would totally agree with that. Then there's lots of shopping. You know, if you're into shopping, then they got cool stuff like that. The problem Last time we went on that, because I've been on that cruise just with Tori twice alone. She, it's a smaller ship, it's a smaller ship and it it goes in like the Pacific is just generally a little bit more rough, and so you can feel the motion on those LA cruises because they're just. And then those ones that go out of, like Texas, florida, you're in the Gulf, you're in the Gulf, it's calmer and the ships are way bigger, way bigger, and so you just don't feel it that much.
Speaker 2:Victor got motion sick yeah it was nothing like when we went to Alaska. There was, it was actually a very calm cruise the whole time. But then there was one day where we sailed through the biggest windstorm in the last 50 years and, I kid you not, I was like, well, we got to eat something. Because we don't eat, we're gonna get even more sick. And I was like I'll go get us some food. I was literally getting thrown from side to side in the hallway and we had a balcony room and when you looked out you just saw the horizon Like go up and down. And I've been through some shit on cruises. I've never gotten sick. To this day. That's the only one I ever actually threw up on. I was like this is is absurd. It was wild.
Speaker 1:We I think you went to Alaska a couple weeks before me. It was like right around the same time yeah and Our ship. We didn't go through anything nearly that bad. I mean they wrote articles about their, but we hit some shit and I mean it was like you. It was by far the most absurd I've ever been, because you're like Walking down the hallway.
Speaker 4:It's kind of like whoa.
Speaker 3:It's like this scene from Inception.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like yeah.
Speaker 1:It was playing the music in the hallway and I'm like running from the bad guy but what's amazing is, like Day one and two I think most of our crew was like oh man, this is gonna be tough, but by day, because we did a ten day cruise, because we went out of.
Speaker 1:San Francisco and by day 10, that last day we were, day 10 was the worst at sea. Dude, we were rock stars, were sitting in the comedy room like hahaha, but it was like you're like holy shit. It's really moving because the comedy room was on floor one, it was like in the gutter basement and you're all the way at the end. So you're really you're feeling it the most and we were like holy shit, but none of us were like feeling it those ships go out of the um.
Speaker 2:They go out of the Gulf, though our mass.
Speaker 3:Totally newest, totally different, yeah, but there's ones that go to Europe. Huh yeah, the transit.
Speaker 2:The ones that are in Europe, though, are actually not the most. They're not the premier ships. For some reason. The premier ships are always the ones that are in the Caribbean.
Speaker 1:Those ones are just like is there a ship that Actually does the transatlantic? There is, but it's a repositioning Ship, so the ports themselves aren't and it's like once a year kind of thing. Yeah, that's time it Because that would. Because I think even with modern boat technology like that's trip just to go from Florida to Spain or wherever the hell, like wherever you're going that probably takes like 10 days, 12 days.
Speaker 4:I would imagine.
Speaker 1:I don't know how, I don't know how fast it is, but I can't imagine being less than a week. But yeah, we should definitely do a trip. We've talked about it. We just need to kind of sit together and do it, and do it.
Speaker 3:Planned to be host like a little friends.
Speaker 1:Witcher, witcher, d&d, dude. We need a host, we need to have like a friends miss, we sync up, we get all everybody down and we start locking in deeds.
Speaker 2:Why are we re-rating details because we're cool.
Speaker 1:We're young, we're young.
Speaker 2:Are we?
Speaker 3:You just singing that song shows that you're not.
Speaker 2:Oh, I shut the world on fire. Gen Z was like five when that song came out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, how's that feel.
Speaker 1:I have glorious purpose. Okay look, you guys need to watch it, please, please.
Speaker 2:I love how we spent the last like half hour of this talking about, like something that is not relatable to anyone, what's so ever that would like we should plan a trip.
Speaker 3:Let's discuss.
Speaker 2:Discuss the trip on the podcast.
Speaker 1:People are just excited to be with us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's how cool.
Speaker 1:We, they have had people reach out and say why aren't our episodes on podcast on Spotify anymore?
Speaker 2:And I can keep doing it. We're we're getting no traction on those for one and then for two. It's a weird thing that I almost feel like if we're jumping dump it, we lose everything we've ever posted. If we get rid of buzz sprout, that's the.
Speaker 1:Really, that's the wait you would all of the they host it. What do you mean? Like, but like our, we'll talk about this offline.
Speaker 2:Okay, we talked about on them Well.
Speaker 3:Let's uh Talk about low key.
Speaker 1:Well, we're at an hour you want to keep going.
Speaker 3:We're at an hour.
Speaker 2:I think it's okay to end it on that note, talking about low key.
Speaker 3:Let's end it here, like they ended the season Of billy's favorite show ever made. Is it my favorite?
Speaker 1:show favorite Marvel property?
Speaker 4:It's not my favorite show ever made favorite.
Speaker 1:Marvel property 100%.
Speaker 4:I've really thought about that.
Speaker 1:I enjoy it more than the Avengers, but Avengers ending good.
Speaker 3:Yes, an infinity war, yes, wow, the whole sequence everything leading up to it age of old run almost better.
Speaker 1:I loved age of old run. I love them all.
Speaker 3:I loved it.
Speaker 4:Thor uh, beat me up, you know.
Speaker 1:Thor dark world or whatever, I loved it.
Speaker 2:I didn't hate dark world, but it definitely was. Thor one. I thought that was fun too, no, thor one was my least favorite at all. It was so like Thor was stoic. We're in the middle of some like. The whole movie took place in like a population town of like 500 people and it was like no, this is so interesting. Oh, the big bad guy's a robot, like it's not. Yeah, anyways.
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Speaker 2:See how long we keep up with that.
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