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Potion Fumbles and Virtual Romances: Adventures in Baldur's Gate

April 23, 2024 The KD Ratio! Season 4 Episode 12
Potion Fumbles and Virtual Romances: Adventures in Baldur's Gate
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Potion Fumbles and Virtual Romances: Adventures in Baldur's Gate
Apr 23, 2024 Season 4 Episode 12
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Ever had one of those days where you accidentally hurl a potion at a clueless canine and suddenly find yourself the enemy of an entire camp? Oh, you haven't? Well, buckle up buttercup, because we're about to regale you with tales of mishaps and the unforeseen ripple effects of choices in the treacherous yet hilarious world of Baldur's Gate. Join us as we recount our escapades, including the nail-biting tension surrounding Gale's fate—will his potential doom cause a cascade of catastrophe? And trust us, you'll want to stick around for the office chair banter that somehow, amusingly, parallels the gaming industry's latest trends.

Let's talk heart matters in pixel land - where the romance is as complex as the combat system. In our latest episode, the discussion veers into the romantic wilderness of video gaming, where characters throw caution to the wind, and pansexuality reigns supreme. We're wading through the thickets of love and lust with characters like Gale and Carlack, who aren't shy about making their feelings known. We also navigate the minefield of narrative choices, because who wants to accidentally shut down an enthralling love story? And don't worry, we haven't forgotten about Will—his role in this digital drama is as nuanced as it gets. So tune in, and let's share a laugh over the trials and tribulations of virtual romances.

If you enjoy our episode's content, come check us out on twitter @KDratiopodcast, YouTube as The KD Ratio Podcast! or on Instagram KDratiopodcast



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This episode was pulled directly from our livestream over on YouTube. Come check us out!

The following description was written by A.I.

Ever had one of those days where you accidentally hurl a potion at a clueless canine and suddenly find yourself the enemy of an entire camp? Oh, you haven't? Well, buckle up buttercup, because we're about to regale you with tales of mishaps and the unforeseen ripple effects of choices in the treacherous yet hilarious world of Baldur's Gate. Join us as we recount our escapades, including the nail-biting tension surrounding Gale's fate—will his potential doom cause a cascade of catastrophe? And trust us, you'll want to stick around for the office chair banter that somehow, amusingly, parallels the gaming industry's latest trends.

Let's talk heart matters in pixel land - where the romance is as complex as the combat system. In our latest episode, the discussion veers into the romantic wilderness of video gaming, where characters throw caution to the wind, and pansexuality reigns supreme. We're wading through the thickets of love and lust with characters like Gale and Carlack, who aren't shy about making their feelings known. We also navigate the minefield of narrative choices, because who wants to accidentally shut down an enthralling love story? And don't worry, we haven't forgotten about Will—his role in this digital drama is as nuanced as it gets. So tune in, and let's share a laugh over the trials and tribulations of virtual romances.

If you enjoy our episode's content, come check us out on twitter @KDratiopodcast, YouTube as The KD Ratio Podcast! or on Instagram KDratiopodcast



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Speaker 1:

You got the roll of voice of all chairs.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 3:

Come on, upgraded the padding.

Speaker 1:

Added a DLC attachment.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a subscription model the moment you stop paying that battle pass just yeah, you're not allowed to use that Sounds like a terrible deal Paying to hang out with you.

Speaker 1:

We're not too far from that in the gaming world.

Speaker 2:

Sadly.

Speaker 1:

You gotta like rent these.

Speaker 2:

It all started with World of Warcraft.

Speaker 3:

Actually Skyrim, not Skyrim. It was Oblivious.

Speaker 2:

Skyrim only had two. They had three expansions and they were all worth the price.

Speaker 3:

It wasn't horse armor.

Speaker 1:

Five dollars it was, and thus here we are.

Speaker 2:

We don't need to go down that rabbit hole again.

Speaker 1:

Not to open it up, Gentlemen how we doing.

Speaker 2:

We don't need to go down that rabbit hole again.

Speaker 1:

Not to open it up. Not to open it up, gentlemen, how are we doing? We started playing or we continued last week with our Baldur's Gate playthrough. Correct, you did.

Speaker 2:

You guys having fun with that, we got some good news coming from that, having a lot of fun we are.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I learned you can't throw a potion at a dog.

Speaker 1:

You can't do that. That scene is bad I guess, and you guys, have you made up the time for that? Yeah?

Speaker 3:

we did.

Speaker 1:

We're back. We didn't record it, but we got to where we were and we ended it.

Speaker 3:

Also, I've learned what you're supposed to do. Throw it next to them.

Speaker 2:

So it splashes onto them so it splashes onto them?

Speaker 3:

Not at all.

Speaker 1:

It's like taking a oh because it does like one damage when it hits huh.

Speaker 3:

It does.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it can, so that's why.

Speaker 2:

It's like saying Billy, get drunk. And then hitting you with the whiskey bottle.

Speaker 3:

But then you suck it in after it hits, you Absorb it. Yeah, what's?

Speaker 1:

crazy to me is that it was like everyone came to the aid of the dog.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they all aggroed.

Speaker 1:

They were like, oh fuck that. I don't care how much of a relationship we've had to this point. You're done.

Speaker 2:

I literally had just and they were against me too, and I was like, wait a minute, why I didn't do it? I'm on your guys' side. I was ready to have the whole camp against Dylan, but no, you're with him. Yeah, you were the only ones that seem to be able to speak on free will.

Speaker 1:

What a crazy game design, though. Like what if you did murder everyone in that camp, like you're?

Speaker 3:

you would have to then go out and recruit more people well, I know, if they have the hireling system through withers, which I don't think with, did withers turn aggro? I don't, I don't think so, I don't, yeah, so he doesn't give a shit about mortal problems um, and then I know they have the, the safe thing of like will right, if you kill will he explodes, I think is that right?

Speaker 2:

I can't. I've heard if he dies that seems more like something that would happen to um gail.

Speaker 1:

Or Gale. I mean, I was like not.

Speaker 3:

Will. I was like why is Will protected like that? No, gale explodes if he dies. Okay.

Speaker 1:

That's what I've heard, and he destroys all the camp, or something.

Speaker 3:

He's like a nuke, so he destroys that part of Favern Wherever you are. He kills everybody.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's one of the endings. You could sacrifice Gale everybody.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's like one of the endings, you get sacrificed Gale. You can sacrifice him before then too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, true, Gale's such an interesting weird arc.

Speaker 3:

He invited me out to go sit with him in the grass. I'm like this is kind of, what am I doing here, Will?

Speaker 2:

This is kind of sus Gale, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Can you romance him as a man?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you can romance any character as anyone?

Speaker 3:

oh really, yeah, they don't have any, they're all no gender and they're all, they're all uh pansexual they're all very easy yeah some more than others, gail instantly carlack wants you right away.

Speaker 2:

You just have to heal her first. But she literally like you have one night where you're like, oh, I think I kind of like you and then like the the next day Carlyle is just like. In love with you Like, not only that, but she's like very vulgar about it. I could.

Speaker 3:

She's like.

Speaker 2:

I want to ride you till you see stars. You're like sign me up. You're like Carlyle, and the whole thing is she's basically been fighting a war for 10 years and had no human contact, any contact of any kind, like the Valkyrie from Norse mythology, right, gale?

Speaker 3:

all you have to do is sneeze in his direction and he's like let me show you some magic. Well, what's funny is I didn't know what was going on the first time. Did you go?

Speaker 1:

see the magic. Well, because he's like no, I didn't what was going on.

Speaker 2:

The first time Did you go see the magic?

Speaker 1:

Well, because he's like Well, no, I didn't, because I looked it up Because I was like, well, I want to go do this thing with Shadowheart Because that's who I want to pick, but I don't want to miss out on that because she'll be upset. So then I Googled it and I'm like, oh, that's his romance option.

Speaker 2:

I was like he's selling it to you, like I've been working on this magic trick, yeah, hoping you can you know and you know, you've noticed like weird shit happening with him.

Speaker 1:

So you're like oh, I kind of I really kind of want to find that out. And then I'm like, oh, he's just hitting on me have.

Speaker 2:

I I'm pretty sure I've sent that short that this youtuber made where he's like I'm trying to romance laizel. And then gail comes up and says I want to show you a magic trick. And I'm like, sure gail's my boy, I'll check out your magic trick. Let me go hook up with laizel and we'll meet up in a couple hours. And then I go to laizel and laizel says I would want you if you hadn't already promised your body to gail. And I go what the fuck, gail?

Speaker 3:

what is this?

Speaker 2:

magic trick. It's so funny that I didn't do it justice. That guy did it way more funny than I did, but that sums up perfectly how easy it is to you know.

Speaker 1:

Literally, I literally had to Google it. I don't want to make a misstep here and yeah, I'm like Well, and at least Will you know all his shortcomings aside. Are you saying Gale or Will? No, will, at least Will, all his shortcomings aside, which there's a lot.

Speaker 3:

Are you saying Gale or Will? No, will, at least Will. All his shortcomings aside, which there's a lot, he doesn't come on to you like that. He kind of stays in his lane, he's incredibly boring.

Speaker 2:

Yes, he's like the most boring character and my wife, who romanced him and her playthrough, regrets it every five seconds. It's to to the point where, like she tried to get us to restart like three times because Gale has, I guess, like the best romance scene, like all of the game.

Speaker 3:

The magic sex.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he like literally casts you're like flying through the stars and he casts a spell to create multiple of him and so, like, every version of him is doing something else Jesus. You know it's like it's ultimate pleasure.

Speaker 1:

Victory says, now he's glitched.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, now Will. His question mark won't leave no matter what we do. It just pisses her off whenever we play.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and I mean I yeah, halston, did Halston come on to you? He came on to me and I was just being friendly to him and then, all of a sudden, one time I go talk to him, he's like maybe we could get to know each other.

Speaker 1:

I'm like no, yeah and then he gets all hurt.

Speaker 3:

He's like, oh, I thought, see, that's one of these.

Speaker 2:

And I'm like, okay, bro if you reject them early, they don't really care. But halston must be different. I don't know. I don't, I don't know with him, because my first playthrough I didn't get that chance because I didn't fix the shadow land, the shadow curse, and so he, he left after act two. He just went on his own. And then my second playthrough, I just rejected him. You can't take these things too personally, because you're gonna hurt somebody in this game. And halston, um, he's funny too because, uh, when tori and I play together, we like we'll, we'll do every scenario, we'll just have a backup save because, we're like oh, we want to see.

Speaker 2:

But halston like he will try and get with you even if you already have a locked-in romance yeah, I already had he's very like he's, he's like polyamorous and he's like, as long as your partner is okay with it I'm okay with it. He's very like there's a whole scene where he turns into a bear and stuff. And we've all heard the we've, all we've all seen that it's, it's wild, literally yep.

Speaker 3:

And then there's minthara. I know how to save her. She's never come on to me. Minthara is no. I think you miss out on her roman, or you miss out on her sex scene, but you can still romance her somehow.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if you save her, if you save her and you save the grove, see, and now that you say that you can romance anybody, that makes me realize why I had some of the dialogue that I did, because I always default to the nicest thing to say to somebody.

Speaker 2:

So it's like it always leads to that that's reminiscent like weird conversations like no wait what that's reminiscent of you in real life, though, yeah, you don't even realize everyone's hitting on me I've been led on this whole time, this whole time man out of the three of us. If there was anybody that were, to, like you know, be hit on like in the public, you would be the one to be like what a swell person and not even realize what was happening. Uh, well, that it's, that's so.

Speaker 1:

It's kind of like blowing my mind right now because it's like you, I would get into these weird dialogues. You're like, wait, what the fuck like there's this big. Well, that's so. It's kind of like blowing my mind right now because it's like I would get into these weird dialogues and you're like, wait, what the fuck Like there's this big burly man. And I'm like a dude, like what is happening, what is going?

Speaker 3:

on.

Speaker 2:

It's called yeah right.

Speaker 1:

Like I'm pretty sure that dialogue that you're talking about I went through and I had no idea that that's where that was leading towards and I that that's where that was leading towards, and I was because it was just because I think at that night you have the choice to like.

Speaker 3:

You do have the choice to I don't there's something with his.

Speaker 1:

Do it with him you can flirt with him, but you can't do anything that night, like the first night after the the goblin, yeah it's just so strange, but that that totally makes sense, because I was like there's, there was a handful of times I'm like what the where did that fucking come from?

Speaker 3:

but anyway, well, it's so interesting, um, how they designed each character to come about. Things like with carlack she's the only one that I've seen. You know both sides is, um, if you, if you talk to somebody else and accept their, their request before talking to her, she will like come on to you when you talk to her like she like if she has high enough um yeah, like I was hoping it would be me or whatever.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but if you talk to her first, you're the one that has to bring it up, otherwise the conversation does not lead to it at all, and I thought that was interesting because it's like you have the same approval. It it's real life.

Speaker 2:

It's real life. She thought you were escaping from her clutches Her clutches.

Speaker 1:

Like the devil, she is.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so Baldur's Gate 3. It is definitely like and that's actually been a critique is because they have written all these characters to just be able to be with anyone. It kind of takes away from the uniqueness of these certain traits, like if you were gay or straight or what have you. The argument is that it kind of diminishes the value of love or whatever that's.

Speaker 1:

That's what I've been, you know it. I could imagine how much more difficult it is to probably write, because now that character has to have so many different romance options and and the scenes that they have to then animate and stuff on the lines too. Holy shit, that's a whole lot more like you just doubled everything yeah, her versus him.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's what I mean, like you're, you have to like almost. I could kind of see that kind of where, like you, you can write a character to have, you have like this vision for this character, right, but then being, if you make that design choice to sort of be open to anybody, now all of a sudden you have to like almost break that illusion of what that character is for you a little bit, to write it like using the different terms or you know whatever, although maybe the romance options aren't that, I don't know. I think that's actually a big part of why people enjoy this game is they do feel like they can I would say love with these characters and get immersed, Right, I mean I.

Speaker 2:

I joke about it, but I like a good romance in my games. But it's not like the primary driving, but like I do if it's like a badly or poorly written romance, that does like make me cringe, like um. So I do like yeah, but like look at liara and tally, tally.

Speaker 1:

Like we have so much of a debate and online there's so much of a debate of you know who to choose and stuff like that, so like I would say a huge portion of the this sort of rpg audience that plays these games to really get immersed in their character 100 yeah you know like that's.

Speaker 1:

so it's just probably that that's a lot more work. That's kind of crazy Because it was sold as a game that has like 178 hours of cut scenes, right, which is just phenomenally crazy. To me that seems like a lot but it's very possible.

Speaker 2:

I mean, they could be very minor, they could be very.

Speaker 3:

Like your one offhand conversation with an NPC.

Speaker 2:

Altogether, I don't. I mean, I've played through pretty much, beginning to end the game like four times, and I've experienced very different things 174 hours of cinematics In Baldur's Gate 3.

Speaker 3:

According to Reddit, Wow, that is crazy.

Speaker 1:

More than twice the length of every season of Game of Thrones combined. I don't really know. Imagine the script. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Like what do we got here?

Speaker 3:

I know, that would be huge Wow.

Speaker 1:

That's probably like. They probably polished the gameplay years ago and they were just trying to finish this. Could you imagine that? 174?

Speaker 3:

hours of cinematics. It was Kickstarter, early access, so it was probably out.

Speaker 1:

Baldur's Gate 3 was a Kickstarter.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

Are you sure about that? Early access? What do you mean?

Speaker 3:

It was a Kickstarter that turned into early access and then but Larian Studios started the Kickstarter. I don't know. I can look it up, but I'm guessing they did it sounds familiar.

Speaker 1:

That seems crazy to me Because they were pretty. I mean, they weren't big, but they were.

Speaker 2:

People talked about Divinity 2 as the best CRPG of all time, but that also had a very small, I feel like, niche crowd. It wasn't.

Speaker 1:

But they still had at least what 100 developers on Baldur's Gate 3? This?

Speaker 2:

goes into that. When we've had those discussions on what makes a AAA game AAA, you know like it's such a who knows where that line really is.

Speaker 1:

AAA is how much they waste money. How much goes to the directive team that did nothing.

Speaker 2:

That didn't talk about the game Okay, x-men 97. That's a transition. I like Ruthless Raw.

Speaker 1:

No filter. Xless Raw no filter, no filter.

Speaker 2:

X-men 97. So if you're a Marvel fan and you haven't watched X-Men 97, you're doing yourself a disservice. You're an absolute loser. You're a loser and you should just accept that.

Speaker 3:

I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1:

Partially, partially.

Speaker 2:

X-Men 97 is. I'm not going to lie to you, it's probably my favorite cartoon ever and it's probably in my top three Marvel programs, like Marvel TV shows, movies, episode 5, and it's halfway done. There's still five more episodes. Episode 5 had such a profound impact on me that I felt identically to the way I felt when I watched Avengers Infinity War Jeez Wow when Avengers Infinity War, jeez Wow when Avengers Infinity War ended. We all know how we felt with that snap in Thanos 1, and you were like what the fuck do we do now? I had that exact same feeling and this has been just a true joy to watch. I am incredibly on the edge of my seat on like where it's gonna go because they've set up so many like really good things after this bombshell of a mid-season. I guess you can call it a mid-season finale, because the sheer impact of what happened season five or episode five.

Speaker 1:

Was that episode five, and how many episodes are going to be in season? I think 11, oh shit 11. Are they taking a break for a few weeks?

Speaker 2:

no, but okay, just the gravity of what happened in episode five. It was like it could have easily been a season finale for any other show. Um, if this was live action, there'd be no doubt in my mind that people will be talking about this as the greatest thing marvel has ever done, like by far no shit. But because it's animated, there's always going to be that. You know it's animated, that knock, but it's leagues better you there we go, testing, we're back.

Speaker 1:

All right, it just dropped real quick um the research I did.

Speaker 3:

Divinity 2 was a kickstarter.

Speaker 2:

Baldur's gate 3 was not baldur's gate 3 that seems more in line was early access, though um they released it in early access but yeah, um, you don't need to watch, uh, the old cartoon, even though this is a like a direct continuation of um, we, we have audio yeah, we're good okay yeah, um, you don't need to watch, uh, the old cartoon to understand this.

Speaker 2:

You just need to know enough about x-men to understand who the x-men are some of the base characters. If you've even watched the movies, you'll know enough about x-men to understand who the x-men are some of the base characters. If you've even watched the movies, you'll know enough about x-men to be fine on the show. Um, they developed it with the thought in mind that the people that watch this in the 90s are now in their like 30s and 40s. So it's not they don't. It's not. It's not like kids couldn't watch it. But it's not written with that in mind. It's written like intelligently.

Speaker 2:

Uh, they don't shy away from character deaths. They don't shy away from hard topics. Um, and I'm just I'm immensely happy that this has been as good as it is. Uh, if I were to rate episode five, it would definitely be a 10 out of 10, and then every other other like the first two is like a 9 out of 10, third one's like 8, and then the fourth one was like a 7 out of 10. It was the weaker of the episodes for me, but they're all like great, I'm super excited. What's gonna happen? I hope that you guys give the show a chance before it ends. Uh, but it does release on a weekly basis, so it's maybe. I don't know if you want to wait until it's all out and then just binge it.

Speaker 1:

I watched the first 20 minutes of the first episode. I couldn't get into it. It was the animation style it had nothing to do with, I don't know. It honestly felt like because the show's rated G right. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I think it's rated G.

Speaker 1:

I felt like it was very in the 20 minutes that I watched it okay, I'll preface it with that I felt like it was very G-rated, like it felt G-rated and I hate, I couldn't get over it. I couldn't get over it at all. It was when they talk and their mouth, just it's two frames, it's open and closed.

Speaker 2:

I didn't feel like there was any and it just felt like a thing right out of the 90s and I was like I mean I was 20 minutes in and I was fucking so bored and I was like I can't do it, so I had a feeling that you would not be a fan of the animation, but you are very wrong when it comes to the g, that's, it's g g rated. Like characters are literally getting murdered in episode five, like there's a whole like oh, episode five is I mean episode.

Speaker 2:

You've had a hard on two an episode like what is the rating? Let's see, it's probably like yeah, I don't, I maybe the first episode in, like maybe the first 20 minutes might feel it, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

It literally reminded me of like uh, yeah, it reminded me of like stuff that I had seen in the 90s, where it was just like, yeah, we're a team, right, buddy, and I just I don't know, I know that that's like super.

Speaker 2:

I can accept the animation argument, but that argument is really bad, I couldn't get into it. That argument is really bad. But to each their own. I couldn't get into it.

Speaker 1:

If you don't want to watch it if you don't watch it, that's fine. Oh, who's the visor guy Cyclops.

Speaker 2:

Cyclops he was kind of uh, he was kind of tuned up. That was kind of cool. He was like really powerful. He had like the first episode like uh they take him off.

Speaker 1:

They take off his glasses and and he's like, oh no thanks and then, like, blows up the whole building or whatever, because I guess he's like way more. I guess the glasses focuses laser sight or whatever it's just he.

Speaker 2:

So he suffered a head injury when he was a kid, which originally his powers were supposed to be able. He could just do that at will, but now they just go off all the time. So all the visor does is control how much he like lets out his optic blast, because it's constantly on so it could be zero, or he can't not have some type of diffuser so he can.

Speaker 1:

Even so, with the glasses on, he can be. He literally could still do 100. If he just takes his glasses off, then it's zero or he can't control that he can only close his eyes?

Speaker 3:

to stop, but that's it.

Speaker 2:

Okay, it's always on it's always on and it's because when he was a kid he suffered a head injury that fucked him up basically. So if he was at his full power, he'd be able to turn it on and off at will. Okay, well, that's to each their own.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I will try. I'll probably pick it up when it finishes to see how the ending, how strong the ending is, because I have seen online how powerful it is.

Speaker 2:

I do think that if the animation, that's not going to get any better. So if you don't like that, it is what it is. But if you feel that you aren't liking it because it's too, I don't know, 90's Power Ranger, like that, is not something that really.

Speaker 1:

That's not what you feel from that.

Speaker 2:

That's not what I get at all you might get that from the first 20 minutes. Well, it was just team building. But there really isn't anything that even happened in the first 20 minutes Nothing, I know.

Speaker 1:

And, believe me, I sat down. I was like, all right, open mind, enjoy this, Try it out.

Speaker 2:

But the two-frame mouth talking I'm just like I can't fucking get over it. I like the animation better than Invincible. I feel like Invincible For some reason.

Speaker 1:

Invincible. It annoyed me this much. But this one annoyed me this much for whatever reason, and I don't know why. I can't even put a finger on it. It just did. I don't know if it's something with my eyes I don't know what it is but I was watching it and I got 20 minutes in and I was fighting the urge to just fuck off on my phone. I'm like, why am I?

Speaker 2:

I almost don't want you to watch it then because I'll just be upset. I just a part of me is just like don't watch it. If you watch the whole thing and you're like, no, I didn't like it, I probably will get upset, and I don't want that to become a thing between us as friends.

Speaker 3:

You didn't like X-Men 97.

Speaker 1:

Episode five was the worst thing I've ever.

Speaker 2:

But I mean people, uh, people online are pretty much in agreement with me that this is the best thing Marvel's done in years.

Speaker 1:

Part of the reason why. So you said it was written for the idea that, like these people grew up with these characters, is there a lot of fan service to a lot of the comics.

Speaker 2:

A lot of fan service to the comics.

Speaker 1:

Okay, but also like comics. A lot of fan service to the comics, okay, um, but also like because this is set in, this is set in the mcu, or totally separate. No, no, it's. It's not mcu, it's set in the 90s.

Speaker 3:

It's set in the 90s but not the 90s mcu yeah but it's not.

Speaker 2:

Um, well, technically it is. So the reason I say that is because the watcher shows up in episode five. He literally shows up, he looks at everyone and then bounces and it's like just a very short like and that's supposed to be your cue. That, oh shit, something crazy is about to go down when did we see the watcher?

Speaker 1:

was that only in what if? And?

Speaker 3:

well, I guess, uh, in guardians 2 there was yeah you know, but the watcher has been watching everything I don't when he shows he's in the astronaut suit. He's like you guys can't just leave me here, or whatever he says oh yeah, okay the the yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there was three of them, though, right yeah, it was just like his race, but not necessarily the. Watcher Is the Watcher a he.

Speaker 3:

I don't know. They all look the same.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know what they are, I don't know. So he shows up, so basically right before all the shit that goes down goes down, his shadow is in space and you can see him, and then it fades away. So that's the only thing that this. Not that they're ever gonna tie this into the mcu, but that's like basically them saying that this is a multiverse somewhere is because the watcher observed that you sure it's not airship.

Speaker 2:

It's definitely not airship, yeah, but they got cable in it. They got this clone saga thing going on. They got Magneto trying to be a good guy, but he's not very good at it, but he's trying because of his friendship with Charles. Professor X is dead right off the rim, other people die. Other people die.

Speaker 3:

I've read the spoiler.

Speaker 2:

I don't think that you guys really even care at this point. You don't care if I tell you the spoiler.

Speaker 1:

You happened upon it or were you looking? At a place that you would expect to happen upon it.

Speaker 3:

It said X-Men is spoiler and I clicked it. Yeah, exactly. It was on the Marvel memes. I clicked it and I was like, oh, there you go, sure.

Speaker 2:

It had the spoiler tag on it too, so I it.

Speaker 3:

I was like oh there you go, sure it had the spoiler tag on it. Yeah, so I had to click it.

Speaker 2:

I knew I was getting a spoiler, but yeah, all right do you, I mean, do you guys? Care no, if I okay, so spoiler alert, if you're, you're watching this. So episode five they go to genosha, which is like um it's an x-men island or the mutant island?

Speaker 2:

it's about like the size of hawaii, like all the islands put together, um, and it's basically it's a, it's an independent nation that was formed by charles and magneto and, um, it is like a place where mutants can go to be free of persecution. The whole thing is that they are, in the very first episode, the x-men. They take out Trask and his Sentinels and it's a bit of a big deal because they've been hunted by these Sentinels for a while and they finally get Trask and it's this whole thing and they think they've won, and then it just opens up more and more problems. Then, eventually, they make this push to get involved with the UN. The UN finally starts to recognize Genosha as a country, and then we don't know who or how this happened. We don't know how it's orchestrated, but this crazy, insane, powerful Sentinel could be from the future.

Speaker 2:

It's hard to tell because there's not really anything that has this level of power that exists currently shows up and fucking mercs, genosha, literally, like it's like slaughtering, like mutants are dying left and right and it's like reminiscent of like the holocaust, and magneto has a personal stake in that, obviously, obviously. So he becomes, he's fucking raging, he like uses his powers to pick up a whole train and he's like using the train as like a whip to fight the giant Sentinel. It's crazy, like they're trying to save everyone. There's like this like leading up to it. There's like this love triangle stuff between Rogue, magneto and Gambit, because I guess that actually happened in the comics. I had no idea.

Speaker 2:

It's a little weird because Magneto's old but in the comics Magneto, he did transfer his consciousness into a young person, so that's basically why he's still yoked, even though he's old.

Speaker 1:

Not only that, he transferred not only his consciousness, but like his powers too. I think it was a younger version of him.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and he like, because it was like this whole multiverse thing, um. So, even though they don't say that's what happened in the show, if you read the comics, apparently you just know. That's why he's still jacked, because even though he's like you, know 70 or whatever he's got the body of like a 40-year-old.

Speaker 2:

But anyways, that aside, so Magneto, he, you know, he has this whole thing where he's like never again and he goes and he starts saving people and he's like wrecking shop, but then he gets attacked and he gets thrown against like this rubble and he's got like all these like kids, basically that he's like trying to save and he's taking on like the full blast of this giant sentinel and he's like doing everything he can to stop the blasts and he like looks around and he realizes he's not going to make it. And so he like looks at the, the young mutant, and he's like don't be afraid, child. And then boom, dead, just kills him and he's dead. And then so rogue starts freaking out and she starts flying towards him. Gambit saves her and like gets her out of the way.

Speaker 2:

He goes and he starts fighting this giant sentinel and then he gets stabbed with like this rod. It goes right through him and then, like in his last breath, he charges up. He charges up the, the rod that's in him, and blows the Sentinel up, cause his powers is, he can like overcharge things, and then he dies. So that's how they solved the love triangle thing. They just killed off both people that she was like attracted to Um and at the way I'm describing it doesn't really do it justice.

Speaker 2:

It's written and performed in such a way that like it really makes you feel like it really makes you feel like how you feel at the end of Infinity War, like we just lost, basically. And so I'm almost like you know I get they could do like a time travel thing, cause cable showed up for like a second and he like ran to Jean and he was like like you could tell he was like not again, kind of thing. So it's like maybe he's stuck in a time loop where he's trying to stop this and it keeps happening and I that'd be kind of cool if they did that. But, um, if it's, it's based off of the comic which is called e is for extinction. In that comic, magneto survives, but the ultimate outcome is they can't figure out a way to keep gambit alive and still win. So a lot of people are like I think gambit's probably perma dead now.

Speaker 2:

Um, so it's just stuff like that and it's just not like a kid could watch it, but it's not, it's not really geared towards that and so, like, I think if your fear of like it being too adolescent to enjoy is there, I would probably say that would be alleviated. Um, like easily in this episode, but there are other episodes that deal with much darker things. The only episode where where I'm like. I'm like, okay, I mean, this was just kind of filler, just a fun little episode, was episode four, and it wasn't bad by any means, but it was like you know mojo and the comics yeah so it was like that and where he like he brought jubilee into like a video game and it was like it was just kind of there for like fun.

Speaker 3:

It wasn't like.

Speaker 1:

Comedic relief.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it wasn't like it was kind of filler. But yeah, I guess I'll stop talking now because I was ranting for the last. No, keep going. So that's where we're at.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, so next episode is coming up, so we're not even technically halfway.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, when did the?

Speaker 1:

episodes come out Wednesday night.

Speaker 3:

Wednesday night, wasn't it?

Speaker 2:

yeah, yeah seems consistent with the design.

Speaker 3:

I hope it keeps the steam, I hope it keeps that that level of quality because, um, it would suck if it started to just go down just dip after that yeah, but I mean I, I felt like reception has been super positive disney fired the showrunner, the guy that wrote uh, the whole first season and second season oh

Speaker 2:

and he's been very quiet about it. He hasn't said why. Uh, no one really knows what happened and the first time he talked since he got fired was he was talking about episode five and he said this was the episode that I wrote to pitch to marvel um the idea of the show, and this is the episode that made them say let's do it. And he talked about it a little bit, but I don't know what. No one knows what he did.

Speaker 2:

But they let him go and the fact that he's not. Maybe he signed an NDA or something, but it's kind of weird. But people are already like bring him back.

Speaker 1:

It's too good. Yeah, so first and second season. You know like they're too good. Yeah, so first and second season.

Speaker 2:

He wrote already yeah, and the first and second season are done and they just confirmed there'll be a third, but it's not going to be with him, so I don't know. They're done as in, they're already animated and everything, I think no I don't think they're animated. I think that it's it's written and it's like concrete on what they're going to do, okay, but I don't think it's like that it's been like animated anything. So yeah, I don't know what that drama's about.

Speaker 1:

Has Disney done more than two seasons on?

Speaker 3:

any of their. Mcu shows Loki no two, oh, more than two.

Speaker 1:

That one was weird because COVID hit and that's why they split it. I don't think they even intentionally meant to do that.

Speaker 3:

No, they did, Because Loki was only going to be the first season, but it was so popular that they made season two.

Speaker 1:

I thought I was reading somewhere where they had a cut filming, and so that's why they did a season one and two.

Speaker 3:

I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Because of COVID or whatever, but I might be totally wrong Because Loki came out in 2021? Yeah, yeah one, and then season two, 23. I think, at least, yeah.

Speaker 3:

It's been.

Speaker 1:

They've done a lot of shit on Disney+, but they're slowing down.

Speaker 3:

I mean, we have Daredevil Born Again. It's going to be 18 episodes, and then I don't know of anything else that we've got coming TV show-wise.

Speaker 1:

I think Feige's retreated back to rethink everything.

Speaker 2:

They should have done that a couple years ago. Yeah, they should have done that. After like Eternals Not that I actually liked Eternals Is She-Hulk getting a second?

Speaker 1:

season. There's no way, right, there's no way. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

So I actually I'm a defender of She-Hulk up until the season finale.

Speaker 3:

It was good I actually liked.

Speaker 2:

She-Hulk. I thought it was good, but they just undid everything on that season finale.

Speaker 1:

Broke the fourth wall.

Speaker 2:

They broke the fourth wall in a way that just felt cheap. It didn't even feel like. It felt like there was no payoff on anything.

Speaker 1:

It was just because they broke the fourth wall in and admitted like we don't know how to write ourselves out of it or something basically there she was explicitly say that basically she was like what the hell like?

Speaker 2:

who's writing this shit? And then she like runs and she goes to the, the like headquarters and there's a robot called kevin which is like joking. Kevin feige, that's like, writes all this stuff and she like changed it or whatever. But it just felt like all of that build-up to the final episode deflating was like for nothing, because it didn't matter. She acknowledged she was like well, this doesn't make any sense and they just like changed it and so it was, I guess, funny.

Speaker 2:

But it made it so where, like, every episode that built up to that really had no effect on anything and there was no payout for anything well, and I, I think, the best part about it was when daredevil was yeah, I think fourth wall breaks are best when they're done sparingly, like deadpool are good, in my opinion.

Speaker 3:

His little comment to the camera. That's all you need. It's like he knows you're there watching this, but it doesn't have to be them going meta and breaking into the studio. I get they've done that in the comics, but I think it works better in comics than it would. I don't've done that in the comics, but I think it works better in comics than it would. I don't know, no Cause there's so many comics versus this. Was she Hulks?

Speaker 2:

I mean in theory, if she could do this and she Hulks most powerful person in all of the MCU cause like change the story. Yeah, like I don't know. I I likedHulk when it was the moments it took itself seriously in. I thought it was good, but I just didn't like it. Like I said, that ending just felt cheap to me. I think there was better ways to do a funny fourth wall break at the end.

Speaker 2:

And because of that we didn't get any payout. Randomly they introduced Scar and the Hulk was like oh, this is my son and it's like the fuck, he's like 18. Like where has he been this whole time? Like the age really fast, I mean. I guess I don't know enough about scar to say why he's as old as he is, but it's just weird, you know. And then like the whole daredevil thing is really cool, but then like they made him. And then like the whole daredevil thing is really cool, but then like they made him a romantic interest of her, which I actually was fine with for the most part, but then it's like it doesn't matter because he has a new romance in his own show.

Speaker 2:

She's gonna get heartbroken and it's like, why even have that thread, why even have that arc of daredevil hooking up with? Who do you, and it wasn't just a one-night stand, because then he was at Thanksgiving or whatever it was he was at their dinner. At their dinner it wasn't a. They're like, oh, it's just for having fun. Like, no, he wouldn't have gone to that family dinner if it wasn't a relationship.

Speaker 3:

Who's your, who's your favorite Daredevil romance? I like Elektra Elektra's. You can't trust her. That's the good part. It's the juicy.

Speaker 2:

That's toxic, Dylan. It's juicy.

Speaker 3:

It's like Black Cat. You know, Juicy.

Speaker 2:

You'd rather Peter was a black cat than MJ.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. All right well, at least once.

Speaker 2:

At least once, that's toxic, dylan. If you can't trust the woman you're with, then why are you with her?

Speaker 3:

I don't know. Mary Jane breaks Peter's heart a lot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that might not be a good comparison, but Gwen Stacy, gwen Stacy.

Speaker 3:

I will die. What do you think?

Speaker 1:

I think Peter Parker could go burn down.

Speaker 2:

I'm not talking about Peter Parker burning alive. I'm talking about. I'm talking about do you think that a relationship should have a healthy amount of toxicity? Because that's what he's arguing right now.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, man, I don't know. If it's a healthy amount, then it's healthy. I think there's always got to be some certain what's healthy, what's? Too, far. Yeah, I think there's got to be a certain tug and pull and whatever the phrase is Push and pull in terms of how much you can get away with and so you can have some fun. I don't know about any toxicity. I don't know what you guys are talking about.

Speaker 3:

Black Cat or Mary Jane.

Speaker 1:

Neither he should just be a single simp his whole life, or Talia, talia Al Ghul or Catwoman. He was with Talia. No, it was Batman.

Speaker 2:

We're talking about romance.

Speaker 1:

You said Mary, Jane.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, now we've moved on to Batman.

Speaker 2:

Okay, Jesus Dylan's the type of guy that if his girlfriend installed a tracker on his phone, he'd be like she just loves me.

Speaker 1:

I would agree with that.

Speaker 3:

I'm not going to have this. I don't think I'd be like she just loves me, that I would agree with that. I'm not gonna have this.

Speaker 1:

I don't think I'd be all right, I don't agree with it but I'm like I don't hide I don't either but I have a tracker, the idea is uh it, it's secret.

Speaker 2:

Versus talking about itly installing something on someone's phone, versus saying, hey, are you cool if I put this on your phone?

Speaker 1:

There's a difference. That's the difference, massive difference.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, secretly, I'd be upset with.

Speaker 2:

Because I track my wife all the time, we know where each other are.

Speaker 1:

She doesn't know, though she doesn't know, she knows now.

Speaker 2:

But she wouldn't install that on my phone secretly.

Speaker 3:

Electra would Electra, electra would freaking.

Speaker 1:

Insert a syringe with a tracker device in your ass.

Speaker 3:

Cheek that would make me dare to vibrate to remind you of her Ooh.

Speaker 1:

It must have been Electra that did this, ooh, hello.

Speaker 3:

I don't know, In the show I liked her better than Karen. I liked their chemistry more Because she was hotter.

Speaker 1:

That's why you liked her better, eh.

Speaker 2:

I don't even. Yeah, I can't speak to that. I think that Electra's good for Daredevil, but if I was. Daredevil, Karen Page seems like more of the.

Speaker 3:

What about Punisher and Daredevil?

Speaker 2:

Together. Imagine how rough Punisher would be in bed. He would punish you.

Speaker 1:

Wow, what an imagination.

Speaker 3:

John, you've been a bad.

Speaker 2:

He kills you. I've been a bad boy, dylan. Why'd you go there? Why'd I follow you there? I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I think you let him, and then he pulled it a little bit and you fucking ran right after him. I think you there, I don't know I think you led him, and then he pulled it a little bit and you fucking ran right after him. I think you threw out that hand up.

Speaker 2:

This whole conversation Billy's been like I don't even.

Speaker 1:

I mean, we're fucking going from one universe to a DC and MCU.

Speaker 3:

What one could Billy actually know that we can think of like that type of?

Speaker 1:

romance. Yeah, billy doesn't give a shit about that. Not at all.

Speaker 3:

But maybe in some type of show he likes.

Speaker 1:

How I Met your Mother.

Speaker 3:

Firefly Is there something in Firefly?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, ted and Robin One of the most toxic relationships of all time. So Ted and the mother is like the relationship that I'm for ted and robin is the relationship that dylan is for.

Speaker 1:

That's what we're comes a lot of stress but phenomenal sex.

Speaker 2:

So it depends what you're in for, boiled down to his most basic.

Speaker 1:

And there's year in that Phenomenal sex. You go years with drought, okay. There's years when it's just not working.

Speaker 2:

Years, you start crying.

Speaker 1:

But the peaks are high, the valleys are low.

Speaker 2:

Ain't no mountain high.

Speaker 1:

No, have you ever seen Firefly?

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Do you even know the way? What Ain't?

Speaker 3:

no mountain high enough have you ever seen Firefly?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, do you even know the way? What the way?

Speaker 3:

What do?

Speaker 1:

you mean you asked if there was a freaking relationship.

Speaker 3:

Well, I was trying to think there's Miranda Bacar and Nathan Fillion. Yeah, but is there a third one? I?

Speaker 1:

don't remember a third girl, it's River and her brother, no God, in like a weird way, kind of I love you. What was his name? I don't know. He was like a doctor, I don't know. Doctor brother elliot yeah but no.

Speaker 3:

Malcolm and the courtesan, they, they were good, but there's no third one. What I wanted to find is something with like a love triangle, you know.

Speaker 1:

There was Wash and Gina Torres, whatever her character name was. The redhead Wash. Yeah, what's his?

Speaker 3:

name Alan Tudyk Alan.

Speaker 2:

Tudyk, who's in every Disney movie ever? Yeah, I can't name Alan Tudyk.

Speaker 3:

Alan Tudyk, who's in every Disney movie ever. Yeah, hmm, I can't think of any in Firefly.

Speaker 1:

It's because you're not really a fan the Witcher.

Speaker 2:

It didn't go on long enough to.

Speaker 3:

Yennefer and Triss.

Speaker 2:

Yennefer and Triss.

Speaker 3:

I'm a Yennefer.

Speaker 2:

Yennefer's'm a tris. The toxic tris is the you could argue tris is toxic well, okay, carol doesn't even argue that. Because if you talk to siri about like why you chose tris over yennefer, which you wouldn't have known, because you didn't do that, she goes why did you end up ultimately going with tris?

Speaker 2:

and he's like with yennefer everything was a challenge, everything was an argument, everything was you know, everything was great everything was great, but there are sometimes you just want to sit back and enjoy the moment you're in, and with Triss I got that. I didn't get that with Yennefer, and that's what he says, something like that in the game. So even Geralt says that Y had a phrase.

Speaker 3:

That's just a little toxic Triss gave him amnesia or no he had amnesia and she took advantage of it and he had a girlfriend.

Speaker 2:

You wouldn't do that if you're madly in love.

Speaker 3:

No.

Speaker 1:

You're welcome, made it easy. You're welcome. You're welcome.

Speaker 3:

Isn't that like great?

Speaker 1:

No, no, not if you enjoy it.

Speaker 2:

He consented it. No, no, not if you enjoy it. He consented.

Speaker 1:

It's not like he was saying no, he didn't know, though we're talking about made-up characters, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Defending Yennefer.

Speaker 1:

My love Yennefer. 100% story-wise makes perfect sense.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But as a human, which Geralt is not. He, he's a tortured human.

Speaker 3:

I go with Triss we disagree on our romantic options.

Speaker 2:

I'm starting to see a trend. Actually, liara is the exact opposite of that. 100%. Liara is literally ride or die, the least toxic character.

Speaker 3:

I don't know if there even is a character like that in mass effect ashley no because once she's in, she's in she's all in there's number two, where she well, because you joined a terrorist group.

Speaker 2:

I'm tired of all these people like don't get me wrong, I don't really like ashley or caden, but all these people are like how could? How could they do that? That'd be like if you came in and you're like oh, by the way, I joined isis and we're like I wouldn't be like, well, I'm with you, ride or die, buddy yeah, you know like that makes perfect plot sense.

Speaker 3:

But she didn't even give him a chance to explain Tally's with him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well, tally is the best. No, then why'd you bring her up subconsciously, you nuke.

Speaker 3:

No, liara's better.

Speaker 2:

Liara's too busy spying on people. All of Mass Effect 2.

Speaker 3:

She found your body.

Speaker 2:

Looking up weird CCTV footage Of things and shit.

Speaker 3:

That's what a Shadow Broker's gotta do.

Speaker 2:

Shadow Broker's gotta snoop, gotta snoop.

Speaker 1:

Liara found your body, but she didn't put you back together. She gave you to the Elusive man who put you back together and like they needed that, if you have the ability. The fucking ship exploded. Yeah, she didn't give up. You didn't need the body. If you rebuilt a human being, they didn't need the body she didn't give up on you.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, she shepherd is literally bounced.

Speaker 2:

She's not even a part of the second game shepherd is literally like 90 rebuilt, like there's probably more there's. It's like nothing of him, the shepherd that's in mass effect 2 and mass effect 3 is not the shepherd that's in mass effect 1 I was gonna say you can make an argument, it's the clone, you're the idea is is he basically died and the clone had all the memories of previous shepherd installed.

Speaker 2:

So you know he's he's new, basically, and that that was actually brilliant story had all the memories of previous Shepard installed. He's new, basically. That was actually brilliant story-wise that they did that. It makes perfect sense if you randomly change classes between 1 and 2, because you're a whole new Shepard.

Speaker 1:

You choose a class in 3? Or do they get rid of class system?

Speaker 2:

No, you choose a class in 3. But in Mass Effect 2, there's different character sliders than there are in Mass Effect 1. And so my headcanon is he looks just slightly different. Unless you choose the default because he's rebuilt. I never choose the default.

Speaker 3:

I choose the default now. It grew on me. I don't really like him that much.

Speaker 2:

He looks a little too, calvin Klein.

Speaker 3:

That's Shepard for you.

Speaker 2:

I need him to look a little bit more rugged, make some ugly.

Speaker 1:

I literally couldn't give a fuck. Do you just do default? I don't even know, there was an option, I just hit play, all right, it's a fucking story driven game yeah, so you wanted to look good, you know you don't even see your face. Yeah, in the cut scenes which most I'm.

Speaker 1:

there's a lot of cut scenes, yeah and Shepard's really inspiring in those cut scenes. Yeah, I should do that. Wow, he sounds like an idiot half the time. He gives the most uninspired. He's kind of I don't know. He's kind of worthless. He's so uninspiring.

Speaker 2:

Commander Shepard is worthless in Mass.

Speaker 1:

Effect.

Speaker 3:

I feel like he's just like a pawn man. You were such a.

Speaker 2:

He's just a pawn.

Speaker 3:

He's the only reason the world survives.

Speaker 2:

He is literally, he gives the best speeches Mass Effect 2, Mass Effect 3.

Speaker 1:

You know they're he gives the best speeches he does. It's like five other characters that I think give better speeches.

Speaker 2:

The only other character that gives a better speech than. Shepard is Morton. Morton has never even given a speech. What?

Speaker 3:

do you mean Right before he dies, captain Kearhe?

Speaker 2:

Kearhe is the only character that gives a better speech than Shepard.

Speaker 3:

Morton sings before he dies, but right before he dies. That's not a speech.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no, he doesn't sing that right before he dies.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he does, he says yeah, he does.

Speaker 1:

He sings that song right before he explodes. There's two different variations.

Speaker 2:

Oh okay, there's a variation where he says something like New beginning for all and then he blows up, and then there's a variation where he's singing that song, so you probably got the other one.

Speaker 3:

I think you have to talk to him and you have to hear him sing it. For him to sing it later. No, you probably didn't talk to him at all.

Speaker 1:

I did every. I have 100% on that game playthrough.

Speaker 3:

I doubt he talked to people.

Speaker 1:

I didn't the frat way through the first game, because you guys were like, oh, you got to make sure you need to get the pixels on the screen to be friends, and so I was like, okay, I'll go chat him up. Yeah, okay, there we go, we'll go down there.

Speaker 2:

And you didn't even do that well, Because, like you killed Rex. Like you're like oh shit, rex died. I'm like you have to do just a bare minimum with Rex Boom.

Speaker 1:

Ashley shot his head. Ashley burnt him.

Speaker 2:

Some tough guy huh.

Speaker 1:

I was like, wait, is this going where? I think it's going? Yep.

Speaker 2:

Bam Didn't get his armor. Rex is so critically important to Mass Effect 2 and 3. It's crazy to think you could just play with him dead.

Speaker 3:

One of the best characters, my favorite. You killed him.

Speaker 1:

Actually you can't romance.

Speaker 3:

You can have bromance 100%, you can take him to the casino In Citadel. As your date.

Speaker 1:

You can. I don't remember that.

Speaker 2:

In the Citadel you go into the DLC where you go to talk to Elijah Kahn at the casino and he's the arms dealer. And then you get there and he's shot in the head.

Speaker 3:

You're doing a heist.

Speaker 2:

You know why he doesn't remember that it's because he was like why am I fucking doing this bullshit side quest when I could be saving the galaxy?

Speaker 1:

I thought the Citadel was just the party back at the house.

Speaker 2:

No, the whole thing where Shepard has a clone.

Speaker 1:

I don't remember you don't fucking remember.

Speaker 3:

In order to get to the party, you have to do that.

Speaker 1:

Dude.

Speaker 3:

You can't do the party until you.

Speaker 2:

This guy blows my mind.

Speaker 3:

He's a gamer like no one I've ever met. You don't remember the clone?

Speaker 1:

No, what the fuck? A clone who clones me?

Speaker 3:

That's the whole Plot. Is you have a clone? Shepard has a clone.

Speaker 2:

He was like farmed for Parts in case Shepard During his reconstruction. Then he was just tossed out when Shepard was alive. Is that where you're with Garrus?

Speaker 1:

With Garrus everywhere. He's scouting the party for you Not the party, but it's like a nightclub.

Speaker 3:

Maybe if that's who you chose as your like, you're trying to stay hidden and you try and stay hidden.

Speaker 1:

I don't remember the date.

Speaker 2:

I've never brought Garrus to that, so I don't know what he does.

Speaker 3:

You can bring your love romance. It's who I do.

Speaker 1:

It's kind of like a stealth mission, right.

Speaker 3:

It's like a heist. So you're in disguise, you're pretending to be just a party goer.

Speaker 1:

Because it's a mask party, right? No, I don't know what I'm thinking about then. Are you thinking of the?

Speaker 2:

Kasumi.

Speaker 3:

But even that's not a mask party.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know Mask party.

Speaker 1:

It's been years.

Speaker 2:

Are you thinking of Witcher 3?

Speaker 1:

When did the legendary edition come out A couple years ago three when did the legendary edition come out a couple years ago. Yeah, that's the only time I've ever played years, but I only played it once. You guys have 400 hours, I have 70, I feel like I think you should play it again never I feel like I could remember something.

Speaker 2:

I only played once definitely. That's not how my brain works no, because your brain is the type that would be like hmm, this causes 20% damage input.

Speaker 1:

If I were to just yeah, I'd probably tell you a skill rotation If I hit up down left, right, right, right, left, right up, down, right right.

Speaker 2:

It's the perfect rotation, and I have to do that every 10 seconds for 40 minutes, Otherwise we don't kill this boss.

Speaker 1:

I don't know why. I don't know why I'm like that.

Speaker 2:

The lore reason behind why we're killing this boss?

Speaker 1:

not a damn clue did you health bars red, we go did you do firewalker?

Speaker 3:

did we make him do that one?

Speaker 1:

what's that one?

Speaker 2:

the crappy flying in mass spec 2. I don't think that you would. I don't think we had to do that one.

Speaker 3:

I hate that that mission. That's one of my favorite side missions and it's locked behind that crappy car.

Speaker 2:

The Overlord.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, with the three-point.

Speaker 2:

Is he?

Speaker 3:

reciting Pi.

Speaker 2:

No, it's not. Pi the square root of something is something.

Speaker 3:

That's my favorite. The square root of something is something that's like my favorite.

Speaker 2:

They have that autistic kid and they try and upload his brain into a geth interface.

Speaker 3:

You don't remember, is that something?

Speaker 1:

That does vaguely.

Speaker 2:

And at the end he's like crying.

Speaker 1:

He's like all hooked up and his brother hooked him up to it, and then you have the choice right to like keep him that way or reset him or something you have a choice to free him yeah, I did this one or keep him hooked up.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think that's it right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think we made you do it. We also made you do arrival because you were like, oh god, I have to do another dlc before I do number three. And we're like yeah, which one's arrival, arrival is literally the one where you blow up the mass relay to slow down the reaper's arrival you're all by yourself and we're like, if you don't do that one you don't have to but it's so important to the story.

Speaker 2:

But even you were like, yeah, I don't even know how that would make sense. If that didn't happen, it wouldn't.

Speaker 3:

At all. Next game you're in jail.

Speaker 2:

For no reason. You're like what Well, you joined Cerberus. So I guess there's still a reason. That's for 3, right, and the way they explain it in Mass Effect 3,. If you don't do, arrival is the Alliance just did that. They sent a team, the Alliance sent a team that blew up the relay. But it feels less personal, yeah.

Speaker 3:

So we did make you play Overlord and Firewalker.

Speaker 1:

I'm pretty sure I did everything.

Speaker 3:

That's damn.

Speaker 2:

I watched him like every night for at least a week, a couple weeks maybe.

Speaker 1:

And you were like okay answer this option. Now you need to talk to this person. I was like alright, alright, alright.

Speaker 2:

And then literally it was the funniest thing because I was watching every single like you live, streamed everything. And the one night that I was like busy you text. And you were like Rex is dead. And I was like busy you text and you were like Rex is dead.

Speaker 1:

I was like what the fuck the one night where I was, because I think I got that was the first game and I think I did that one.

Speaker 2:

I had played by myself to that point and then, when I texted, you, I was watching and then, no, I remember I was watching and that was the one night, I wasn't watching.

Speaker 3:

And from I remember I was watching and that was the one night I wasn't watching From that point on Kyle, never You're like. I don't trust this guy I told you.

Speaker 2:

I was like don't forget to get the family armor, because your charm isn't high enough. Then you didn't, because you were like I didn't think that it was happening right then and there it just came out of nowhere.

Speaker 1:

Well, mass Effect, where can people find us?

Speaker 3:

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Speaker 1:

Wow and with that remember you ruined it. With a good kitty, you get the dub.

Speaker 3:

Bye. Guys, Bye.

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