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We're thrilled to have the brilliant nerd, Kyle, join us for a wide-ranging chat that swings between Middle Earth and skate parks. Kyle embarks on his first journey through the extended edition of Lord of the Rings, sharing with us his impressions of each film and his newfound love for Gandalf. However, the journey doesn't stop there as we also take a humorous detour, comparing the rapid aging of characters in fantasy with the sprouting teens in Stranger Things.
Switching gears, we venture into the explosive world of the Invincible comic series, where we wax lyrical about the incredible power of Omni-Man, speculate on John Hamm's mysterious role, and pit Spider-Man against the titans of the Invincible universe. Then, we take a personal turn as we dive into Kyle's high school tales, his language learning journey, and the importance of persistence. Ever wondered about the cultural perspectives on love or the importance of helmet safety in skate parks? We've got you covered.
Bringing our chat to a close, we dip our toes into the often overlooked subject of toddler fights and the hypothetical scenario of human confrontation with a chimpanzee. We round off with a look at romantic relationships in the Mass Effect series and express our thoughts on Commander Shepherd's unsolicited opinions. This episode is a delightful cocktail of deep thoughts, light-hearted banter, nerdy discussions, and unimaginable hypotheticals. So, come aboard, and let's explore the universe together!
If you enjoy our episode's content, come check us out on twitter @KDratiopodcast, YouTube as The KD Ratio Podcast! or on Instagram KDratiopodcast
We pulled this episode directly from our live stream over on YouTube. Come check us out!
This description was written by an A.I.
We're thrilled to have the brilliant nerd, Kyle, join us for a wide-ranging chat that swings between Middle Earth and skate parks. Kyle embarks on his first journey through the extended edition of Lord of the Rings, sharing with us his impressions of each film and his newfound love for Gandalf. However, the journey doesn't stop there as we also take a humorous detour, comparing the rapid aging of characters in fantasy with the sprouting teens in Stranger Things.
Switching gears, we venture into the explosive world of the Invincible comic series, where we wax lyrical about the incredible power of Omni-Man, speculate on John Hamm's mysterious role, and pit Spider-Man against the titans of the Invincible universe. Then, we take a personal turn as we dive into Kyle's high school tales, his language learning journey, and the importance of persistence. Ever wondered about the cultural perspectives on love or the importance of helmet safety in skate parks? We've got you covered.
Bringing our chat to a close, we dip our toes into the often overlooked subject of toddler fights and the hypothetical scenario of human confrontation with a chimpanzee. We round off with a look at romantic relationships in the Mass Effect series and express our thoughts on Commander Shepherd's unsolicited opinions. This episode is a delightful cocktail of deep thoughts, light-hearted banter, nerdy discussions, and unimaginable hypotheticals. So, come aboard, and let's explore the universe together!
If you enjoy our episode's content, come check us out on twitter @KDratiopodcast, YouTube as The KD Ratio Podcast! or on Instagram KDratiopodcast
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Speaker 2:Life is good life is good in the hood well, I wouldn't know.
Speaker 1:Tonight we're talking about Lord of the Rings. We have one member of our nerd crew. He shall not be named Dylan. It's Kyle. Yep, it's me definitely not.
Speaker 2:It's definitely not my soul no, it's me, I am doing my first. Well, okay, so second, watch through but first that I can remember right because I watched the original one at first came out and your, but a wee child basically, you watch the stream of a game that's
Speaker 3:yeah essentially when you said I basically played it because I watched someone play it. That's the same thing yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So you're doing the extended edition, you're doing it proper, mm-hmm, you're enjoying it.
Speaker 2:So far, yeah, a lot actually I. I'm a big fan now of each film I've, so I'm on. I finished the second one last night two towers right now I don't have a favorite because they feel like the same level of quality to me and I feel like I want to see the whole story to know which one. I don't even know if I could pick a favorite, I don't know, because it's it's such an epic, yeah, that I'm buckled in and just enjoying it hundred percent well, they filmed all three movies at the same time and I wonder if that not only.
Speaker 1:Obviously you have the obvious benefits of having everybody schedules and yeah doing all that. But I think also the actors aren't doing other projects during the filming so they can kind of stay in character better yeah, they really maybe that's why there's no fall off in a lot of the quality of acting right, because it kind of can be weird when you're watching sequels where it's like that people have visibly aged or they look a little different, or they gain or loss weight or there's no time, skip to like explain why like stranger things yeah, that one's just five ones they're growing up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but is it?
Speaker 3:I think so do you guys like they grow up a little too fast?
Speaker 2:I feel like yeah, I guess they grew up too fast, they didn't grow up too fast.
Speaker 3:We just in our heads we expect them to be that old because it's so much time is fast, but when you think about it, on story wise they're still, they're a lot old they're a lot older than we're they like 19 and 20 on the last season they're all like in their young adulthood
Speaker 3:yeah, and they're playing, like you know, 14 year olds. That's a little weird, but that's what they've been doing with teens and TV shows forever, I know there was always like 35 years old playing a 17 year old. It leads to this can like pre-conception, that, like you, should look a certain age by the time you get to high school, not realizing that no high schooler actually looks like that.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, but you're enjoying it, you? What's your favorite character so far?
Speaker 2:um, probably everyone. He's won me over just by I at first. To be honest, when I was kid I the actor himself. I thought he looked weird. Definitely that was my impression does he look weird, mm-hmm but as I grew up, now I, now I get it. Now I get why he's like a heartthrob. I think he looks handsome now I get wise hands, but when I was a kid I thought he looked with that chiseled jaw. I thought he's double.
Speaker 1:I had that when I that I feel like there's a little something off.
Speaker 2:I always.
Speaker 1:I always felt that way, but now I understand it's because you're a bait and male.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you wouldn't understand who's your favorite character?
Speaker 1:it's gotta be Gandalf. He has the, he has the wise words, he's sort of the, the leader, everybody he follows. But I want a thing that I I admire but I also don't like is he? I feel like he's always gone, he's always like yeah gotta go do this. So shit, I gotta go tell somebody about this. You know there's no phones, so he's got to go right.
Speaker 3:Three thousand miles look to the Sun on the third day with haste.
Speaker 1:Where are you going trust me there's no time to explain he like rides, like what? 50 leagues or something like that. They go find the riders of Rohan, get them all to turn around and then join the fight. Yeah, it's Gandalf, for sure, is up there, but I think each character there's, so we were just talking about it before this. But each character is so diverse and they have like the, the filler characters. Right, they're just there for like fun, like Mary Pippin, and, but they have like it makes value to the story right, they're not just throwaways where they're like, they're for comic relief or whatever.
Speaker 1:At first you know, you think they are, and then you realize you're like oh yeah they're contributing a lot of it, yeah you know, what's funny is, I think, when I think, when we were talking about this just the other day, I think my answer was Faramir, yeah you did say that I always love, like his decision-making, even though he's kind of cat, but I always appreciate his context. Like you meet him. You haven't met him yet, right? He's a brother of Warmey, right?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, I met him he shows up in two times does he show up and then takes Frodo and Sam okay, that's all I'm too, and then he lets him, it's all one long movie for me, so I can't separate between him. Oh he, so he's. They were all. That's right, he's already. He's already let them go yeah so you've already seen some some of like his character. Yeah, but I always appreciate his position because he's in this.
Speaker 1:You always see, like the in a lot of these medieval stories, whatever you that you always follow the, you know the oldest son or like the air to the throne and you never really get the perspective of the second in line and you kind of see his battles with everything right, like Boromir and him had a great relationship but he you know his dad always favored Boromir and like you see him sort of struggle with that but still want to me. That's his dad, he still wants to make him proud. And then you see, in the three in three you see Denethor like break when.
Speaker 1:Boromir does that like he thinks he dies, so like there's obviously love there. It's just kind of weird love.
Speaker 3:I was like spoiling it yeah, now I know. Boromir is not a 20 years 20 year old movie one.
Speaker 1:You've already seen what about you, kyle.
Speaker 2:Who's your favorite man? Does it change constantly?
Speaker 3:yeah yeah, one of my go-tos is always air gone, for sure, air gone. I used to really like legolas when I was a kid. I did too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would have to say who's my favorite from like like, without watching it. I liked a legolas, but I've, I've changed yeah, I do. I really I'd still like legolas, but I'm like air gone is cooler it's either air gone or or Sam.
Speaker 3:Sam yeah, see, if I'm gonna like an elf, like I'm gonna go Elrond, elrond he's not in it long enough for me to have it make it be a favorite character, though why is he your favorite, billy?
Speaker 1:he has this well. First off, he's been around forever, so he has this context that people seek out specifically and so he's able to provide a lot of really impactful information and offer guidance and stuff. And he comes in at like critical moments and then also he's in rings of power and he, like the guy who it's a different actor, but the heck I slays that role. It's so great so I legolas. For me is is so almost like war driven, like he. I feel like he almost doesn't even, which is typical of an elf, I guess he was everyone's favorite for a long time.
Speaker 2:Well, he's like when it launched my personality, I, my perspective of him is he's just part of the boys, you know one of the boys airborne. Gimli and him.
Speaker 3:He's along for the boys basically us of the Lord of the Rings, one that's right, so Billy's Gimli naturally you're the shortest, that is true, you have a beard, though he has no hair yeah, so he has no hair go home just picture, billy, you don't look at your you don't look at him and think he's been starving for you in nine hundred years no, definitely not so we got off top.
Speaker 2:Who's your favorite air?
Speaker 3:air Garner Sam okay yeah. Sam, some of Sam's best moments. Come and return the King all of his best moments, yeah, and so, like you're gonna, if you think Sam is cool, now just wait, he's the. What I like about Lord of the Rings is it kind of it challenges all these like preconceived notions we have of masculinity, because all these men are like men and they're badass and they you know, but they're not afraid to show their love and emotion for each other yeah you know, like it's I.
Speaker 3:You know I'm not trying to get into like a discussion on traditional masculinity and please that kind of thing.
Speaker 3:But like I love the way that Sam admires and loves Frodo in a way that like he's not afraid to show that and then still be a badass when he needs to, especially in the return of the King. But same thing for for all of them. Like you know, they they're not caught up on. Like you know, they just want to do what's right, not yeah, like legless, hold on to the necklace mm-hmm for air gone or air gone there's never like a.
Speaker 3:You know, I'm too fucking badass for you kind of thing to him leaves like show any emotion up throw me, you'll have to talk to me. Yeah, don't tell me. And then again in return of the King. Legless and Gimli have some of the best moments too. They a lot of the like, heartfelt like moments that make you want to stand up and cheer happening returning King for me.
Speaker 1:Not that they aren't in those other movies but, and you haven't seen ring up rings of power at all have you. I can't believe that. Does this. So when you finish three, do you think you'll be like are you enjoying it enough to maybe take on the rings power series?
Speaker 2:yeah, maybe just to check it out, I really like, I'm digging the lore and I'm liking, like everything about the world so far. So if rings power is similar enough, I think I think I could get into it it's even more magical. And then no, I mean like from a world.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's even more magical, magical oh. I love it so much, but it yeah, I honestly there.
Speaker 1:There's like some deep lore people who read every single word that in simpo, over every single word, that token ever wrote that don't like it. But I'm not one of them. I really, really enjoyed the series so much I can't wait to watch it again when they come out with season 2 in 2037.
Speaker 3:I haven't avoided watching it because I feel some type of way about it. I just, you know, have too much of a backlog. It's just like there's so much you know out there and it's hard for me to get into a show nowadays.
Speaker 1:Really, yeah, I find myself wanting to get. I have to be careful with shows because I get sucked into those way more than film although I'm caught up on a soka now when you talk about that tonight.
Speaker 2:But oh man, I've started invincible you have what you guys have been, did you finally you watch?
Speaker 3:first episode I did.
Speaker 1:I was like 50%, 60%, 70% through the first episode and I'm like, all right, man, this is just another. And then, boom, fucking changes. Like all right now I'm buckling in so where you at now like episode four or five, so I'm almost through season one. I've had halfway through season one season two.
Speaker 3:That's right, we got you know these in the chair, how you doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's, I'm enjoying the hell out of that and it's I feel like the Supers are super you know, it feels good and I wish there wasn't like the dynamic there's.
Speaker 3:There's that bullshit Peter Parker flavor in there, like he's trying to get his high school girlfriend Adam Eve you know and I'm like okay, actually girlfriend before Adam, adam Eve, or whatever oh yeah, the, I forget her name, but gosh is the worst.
Speaker 1:I'm like yeah dude, I'm just like all right, this is just a typical high school boy trying to get the series.
Speaker 3:That series gets better as it goes on to oh, so good but I'm telling you like four seasons, right no it's only one of come
Speaker 1:out. So far, there's only one season.
Speaker 3:Yeah, season two is coming out, that season one just released like a year ago.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, I thought there was like four. There's two series on. They plan on doing.
Speaker 3:They plan on doing eight seasons as well holy shit because the, the comic series it's based off of, is like 500 500 books, stories, 500, so they think they could wrap it all up in eight issues. Issues, that's what I'm there it is no.
Speaker 1:So I was like, all right, these bastards trying to get me to watch this shit and put it on. I'm like, all right, let's buckle in.
Speaker 2:I love though, how you have an omniband impression as like, like I think I was the same words like the whole first episode. You're like okay, so it's just like.
Speaker 3:It was like yeah, and then all of a sudden you're like oh, holy shit, and I knew nothing about the series so I didn't know that was gonna happen.
Speaker 1:When Omni-Man just fucked them up look, well, I think you guys are showing me the clip, because once I Omni-Man grabs, like Red Rush or whatever his name is and just explodes his face. I'm like, oh, I remember this, I think from a YouTube clip, because that's gruesome.
Speaker 3:And then the water guy is like he cuts somebody's head off just with this poem like, if you think about it, that is, if Superman was evil, that's the kind of shit he would do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he would stop and just wait till you get further one like invincible and Omni-Man eventually do fight. There's some crazy stuff locations.
Speaker 1:Well, like Omni-Man, straight up goes into another dimension like explodes a world and then is like home for dinner.
Speaker 3:That's one of the it's like alright, this because if you know nothing about the series and we've already spoiled it for you, but if you know nothing about the series, I love that line because you're still like there must be something.
Speaker 3:There must be some reason why he took down the you know that superhero team yeah, and it's yeah and so like people were thinking that they're like you know there's gonna be some explanation as to what happened, but then when he goes to that portal and he's like earth isn't yours to conquer and you're like, oh fuck and he just levels that plane.
Speaker 1:It like yeah, dude, another level. Yeah, I just figured like and.
Speaker 3:Omni-Man's, not even like in the top five most powerful people in that series in that series in invincible so there's people that are more powerful than him, that are yet to show themselves. I read the whole thing because I got so into the show. Yeah, how do you do you, how do?
Speaker 1:you, I read online. Yeah, like, how do you do that you? You have like a subscription for the, the issue, like the comics, and then you're able to do. Or did you buy them all, or how do you?
Speaker 3:you can get them, like the PDF versions. Oh, I see no artwork, and if you're into it, enough, yeah, I'll just read through it. No, so it's not Marvel, it's not DC, it's image image and it's a zone now it's heavily obviously Omni-Man's, heavily inspired by DC, especially like the what are the Guardians of the globe?
Speaker 2:but you know what? Yeah, good, you know what. Is crazy though. Omni-man or invincible is meant Spider man mm-hmm is what he's met. Spider-man in a comic see.
Speaker 3:Spider-Man's the greatest hero. Yeah, spider-man would get fucked up in the world of God.
Speaker 1:I take issue with that.
Speaker 2:What a waste but uh, he's like I'm not gonna watch it anymore.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm over it, if I swear to God, if I even whiff Spider-Man things get wild, I'm gonna find Mary Jane.
Speaker 2:Bunkle Ben, bunkle Ben, bunkle Ben. I gotta find Uncle Bunkle Ben's dead.
Speaker 3:He's like I'm fine, but like things get wild in invincible like coming up. I don't even know how they're gonna like fit all of it into, but there's a lot, you know. There's even a whole arc where, invincible, he goes back in time and he warns the Guardians of the globe and they press prep and they kill Omni-Man because they're ready for it, and it creates a whole different timeline of events and just stuff like that, like.
Speaker 1:I don't know how they'd be ready for it. He seemed to handily take them all out. It was he struggled towards the end.
Speaker 3:If there was a pretty, if there was a strategy, well they proved it in the comic, if they had time to prep and strategize, then they could figure out a way to do it. Like what's his name? The immortal. He's not nearly as powerful as Omni-Man, but like he's still with other people. Like they could, they could do it. The thing was they were caught off guard and they just weren't ready for a plan. Yeah, but you're so. Episode four, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, some of the cooler stuff happens and like yeah the end seven and eight.
Speaker 3:What's the?
Speaker 1:purpose. Do we find out what the purpose of like John Hamm's character is? John. Hamm is like the voice of, like this father son.
Speaker 2:It's what. Explain the character.
Speaker 1:It's so weird Like they show up in like these little clips at like the very beginning of the episodes and I can't I maybe I missed it, or but like they're, they're just like there, and Then it jumps in like the super stuff.
Speaker 2:Jinglebees, you know who he's talking about. It's like a father, son plays a character.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like the very opening scene. It's like him at a security gate and he's like talking to his buddy, oh. And then it's like this son, and then they like went to Paris or something and then like they, if I remember?
Speaker 2:Yes, they come in eventually.
Speaker 1:Okay, cuz it's like ladies little clips, and I'm like what the fuck does John Hamm have to do with any of it's like?
Speaker 2:it's like it's a slice of life at the very beginning, like with or they're just like like transition, like I never even put too much thought is that?
Speaker 3:to be honest, I think it was more just like a cameo thing.
Speaker 1:Maybe they're juxtaposing like you know, like what civilians experience you know versus like what Experiencing.
Speaker 3:I didn't even know that was John Hamm. I have to look up the character Like. That seems like a kind of a weird role for John Hamm, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, that's why I was questioning it, because I was like that's John Hamm and I don't understand what, why that guy is doing this character that has no application yet Like halfway through the season. So there's only. I'm almost caught up then. Yeah that's exciting. Yeah, loki, season two is coming out, I think in a week or so, maybe a little over a week, week and a half. I am so jazzed for that boring.
Speaker 3:I hate Marvel. He's a.
Speaker 1:What's the next Marvel movie to come out? I don't even know Marvel's. That's probably why.
Speaker 3:I'm excited, I think it looks good, more beastie boys yeah. No no no bro.
Speaker 2:That's not the intergalactic song and their galactic play in the Taylor and turn galactic.
Speaker 3:Got to go with what works, huh, I think that it must just be super easy for to buy the rights to be. Steve was music because it's used in everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it must be like they own. Disney probably bought the rights a long time ago.
Speaker 3:They just maybe Disney owns the studio that owns that music yeah, they could just yeah.
Speaker 1:How much of that shit happens. You know that we just are forced down because Companies own other certain assets and they don't want to waste a lot. There was a the TV show suits. They would let the different Actors in the series direct various episodes. So everybody got like a turn to direct a.
Speaker 3:Direct episode.
Speaker 1:It was kind of cool actually because you could actually feel the difference of the flow. But Patrick Adams, who plays Mike Ross in the series, he Said he put together the the list and he was like 30 million dollars over budget. He was like what the heck?
Speaker 1:and he had like spent like 25 million on music. Oh, my god, I didn't realize it and so they were like obviously he didn't direct, like they just took the music out, but he wanted to use like happy by Pharrell Williams and stuff and songs that were super current now and it was not not gonna do it Disney bought the BC boys. They did.
Speaker 3:That sounds about right. Disney owns everything. Disney what would you know? Mess with the mouse.
Speaker 1:What if Disney had, like a DJ Khaled type intro to like every song that they owned?
Speaker 2:like DJ Disney.
Speaker 1:Do-do-do Disney plus, let's get it down now.
Speaker 2:No matter, this song right before Beastie Boys Intergalactic Disney Plus. Yes, it's gotta be in the Mickey voice, like Haha yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1:I like that.
Speaker 2:Did you imagine every song you're like?
Speaker 1:Like an ad in your music. We already get that shit though. I mean you watch music videos and you see Product beats all all the time.
Speaker 3:Probably they're they've been doing that you know liquor though. This is product placement ever since I know every time we record, I'm like, should I like turn the logo?
Speaker 1:That's the most widely known Word in every language crack, cocaine, coca-cola. At least it was. I remember, like those old, you remember those Guinness books of like world records that you would get and you would like you would run to the school library To try and get the. You know the books that you the I spy. Okay.
Speaker 1:I think it's actually anti nerd. You would go to the school library for a session Uh-huh you'd find like the. I spy books or the the. Goosebumps series or the or Guinness book of world records and I believe it or not, and Ripley's believe or not, that's right and Run. I never understood that, so explain it to me, don Ripley's, believe or not, yes, they put stuff in there that was fake, right it's?
Speaker 3:believe it or not. I think it was like no, this is real.
Speaker 2:I think it's real.
Speaker 1:All of that shit is a hundred percent yes. I think I thought it was always like 50 50 verified to the best of their abilities. But I think that it's like this is real, believe it or not like this is so crazy you won't believe it, but it is the longest thing I just remember, like longest fingernails or Label, almost pop their eyes out of their head legit, you know, run to the library, that's right, baby Give me that book.
Speaker 3:I went to a Ripley's believe it or not museum in Oregon. And it was actually really cool.
Speaker 2:I went to one it sounds pretty cool actually in Vegas, and it was cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I went. It's like the one I went to was like in this little tiny fishing town off the coast that I was like why did they have a Ripley's believe it or not museum believe?
Speaker 2:it or not?
Speaker 3:But it was cool, and then they had all these like weird optical illusion rooms. So you like love those you like walk into this one room and it's in this like spinning dome, so like you're like, oh my god, when you're walking, or you're walking this one where you can't see the floor, like it's so crystal clear that it looks like you're like walking on air and it's trippy, it's like a nanodirection.
Speaker 1:I love those interactive interactive exhibits. You know, we have a museum here where you can go and they have like all these brain teasers and you and there's so many stations that you could literally spend a whole day.
Speaker 3:After he ran from the library.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I need to go to the Discovery Museum. I'm so excited to learn.
Speaker 1:I'm learning. No, I think I was doing the opposite. You go to the library to read. I was grabbing the shittiest books. So why were you going to library? The whole fucking club, did you not go to school? I know he fucking mom's a teacher, yeah, so he didn't have no, he didn't have access to this. You went to kindergarten, that's it right?
Speaker 2:I would go and I try and buy like I'd had favorite books and I would wait for them to like go on sale and you know, like they would get Decommissioned from the library and you could buy them. I was never.
Speaker 1:No, I was a fucking nerd. You want to let's steer into that? I was a fucking nerd. I went to the library at now you were a healthy mix.
Speaker 3:The only thing, nerdy, you did was play MMOs, but you were like a sports boy.
Speaker 1:You growing up football and you know like, oh, I definitely love sports, but what my lunch is in high school, mostly were spent in the library and I would do my homework because I didn't want to do it at home. I mean, I would do with my buddy who's now a Harvard medical Doctor so what else you? Know, fucking bum compared to him medical doctor. Yeah, what am I gonna?
Speaker 3:Harvard are like vegans They'll never shut up about you guys. I'll Harvard.
Speaker 1:Hey man, if I went to fucking Harvard I probably never shut up about it Not that I ever really try a famous Conan O'Brien Said because he went to Harvard.
Speaker 3:He said it was much harder to get into Harvard than it was actually be in Harvard.
Speaker 1:Once you're there, just call the prestige happens before you get there, exactly it's all about. You know the lowest acceptance rate and then once you get there, it's just no, it's no different, you're not work, you might. You might get more disciplined students to the set, in the sense that the students will perform better, because they try to get there. But in terms of the curriculum now, it's gotta be identical. Maybe they have more resources so you get cooler tech, but I can be much different as a college dropout.
Speaker 3:That's what I tell myself to sleep at night. I could have been to Harvard as long as I got.
Speaker 1:Makes it feel any better. You could do like executive courses at Harvard and get a Harvard graduate certificate. You could be like a two-week course. I graduated from Harvard.
Speaker 2:You could be one of those people. It's like graduated at 70.
Speaker 3:Oh, you could. It sounds terrible. I Don't want to be one of those people, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm done, let's get personal. I am done with institutionalized, like academics. Yeah once I finished my shit, I'm like I turned it all off. I'm like I don't ever want to go through Another institutional program to learn something, and in fact I was going through the other night. I'm really into this German band right now and I'm like, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2:Mine camp. Mine camp, it's named after it, do you?
Speaker 3:relate to that Mine camp.
Speaker 1:No, I fucking relate to that, you don't.
Speaker 4:I know I might look like I relate to it. What color are your eyes?
Speaker 2:Jinglebees, you see they fucking both go against me constantly.
Speaker 3:I wasn't gonna say skinheads, yeah, but as soon as one.
Speaker 1:always no, but I was looking like color or your eyes.
Speaker 3:There's a little blue.
Speaker 1:Perfect color. The perfect color. Is that even German? I am a world-class bad at accents like.
Speaker 2:We know Jinglebees said word to you being a Against skinhead.
Speaker 1:Oh sure, no, I think it was institutional academic, but sure so I don't even fucking know where I want to learn German or some other language. That's where I was going.
Speaker 3:You had a band that you liked.
Speaker 1:That's German, that's what you were saying yeah, I want to learn a second language and I don't want to do it in like a classroom setting. I think it would be really cool. I don't know, I say this, and I say it because I'm the kind of ASMR. I'm the kind of person that the things that I learn are incredibly Tangible and functional. And I don't know if learning German I don't know, I do know is not functional at all, other than maybe travel Once in my lifetime I might go there, you know.
Speaker 3:So I was just gonna say I would have preferred, In fact I learned any language. I'd love to learn Spanish because of how much that would help my career in life.
Speaker 1:That is definitely way more relevant than like German. But I, I try. I took two years of Spanish in high school. It really didn't suck me in at all.
Speaker 3:I have a. I've tried to learn Spanish A lot and every time I get started it's it's really. It's more difficult for me than like math, like I just have a hard time with it.
Speaker 2:I, I tried to learn. I've been trying to learn Japanese off and on and it's easy For me to like do it, but it's hard for me to stay consistent. No, well, that's what you need to do and you also need to practice. That's just it.
Speaker 1:And so it's like because you got to make that switch from Like reading it and being able to translate word for word to contextual and like. I.
Speaker 2:When I went to Japan for a week, I my japan skills or my japanese skills improved so much in like such a short time. Your japan's, my japan skills you know, separate from my american skills.
Speaker 1:Would be cool. What's asl?
Speaker 3:americans sign language. Oh, that would be cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh actually I, whenever I watch quiet place. That really inspires me to learn asl.
Speaker 3:Just in case that happens.
Speaker 2:Well no just because it looks like I'm like damn, that looks cool.
Speaker 1:But sign language is if you just learned each of the hand movements for each letter, you could probably fake your way through anything, right?
Speaker 3:You just spell everything out.
Speaker 1:You would just spell everything out and then maybe you didn't know, like the, but you know, I know this one right the thing that I find kind of.
Speaker 2:I learned that from creed the bullshit.
Speaker 1:I have a friend who's like an absolute.
Speaker 3:Wow, just gonna all right. What do you find?
Speaker 2:Dylan, I don't even remember now, but I remember you steamrolled over me. You're happiness.
Speaker 3:At least we didn't call you a racist, true. Yeah, it's a third there are worse ways to get steamrolled. Oh.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say I do find it odd, though that like I mean, I guess it's not too odd, but why wouldn't they have a centralized sign language Like American? Sign language is only American, so you can't use it.
Speaker 1:America's the only thing that matters. Were we off. Next question.
Speaker 2:But yeah, so like you can't use it and you know, in like Germany, like it wouldn't. Maybe I don't know how close they are, but I don't think they're that close.
Speaker 3:Because we have different alphabets. So that's the real thing. Is you? If you, it's American sign language because it's based off the American alphabet, so obviously German and but why wouldn't they make like a universal sign language? Because then If that would make too much hard to like teach?
Speaker 1:probably yeah, because like this is bullshit, but. But the term for bull is probably like in German like. But if something like some similar, very throaty, very throaty. Wow, it's just. And so you know the it doesn't make sense, you know but Now counterpoint, billy, these, these kids that are learning it.
Speaker 2:This might be the first language they learn. They aren't. If they're deaf from birth, they don't know English, you know they know American sign language.
Speaker 3:Yeah so do you think if, like you talk to somebody that use British sign language, you think their hands have accents?
Speaker 2:probably we. We, that's French.
Speaker 1:You know it's so funny. That was the first thing that came to my fucking mind and I almost did it. I don't know why, but in total, I swear to god, I was too. I was a second. I was like that's french, don't be an idiot. History was invented in 1776.
Speaker 3:Everything before that was a mistake.
Speaker 1:Amen. No, but you know what I'm saying, though, like with I, I get excited for oh, it'd be so cool to. Well, I used to work with, um, I used to work with this, this lady that was Polish, and I have this is going to get racist. What the fuck I, you guys, are dicks. Man.
Speaker 2:No, it's not.
Speaker 1:Racist. I'm honoring this lady because she inspired me. No, she's.
Speaker 3:Anyways, she was a real battle.
Speaker 2:There you go yeah.
Speaker 1:No, she was. She was a pollock like myself and she, uh, she was telling me how she, when she learned English and she, she was really fluent in both. It was, it was really awesome. And she was an immigrant and, um, she would. She's, one of the coolest experiences to have is to dream in both languages. It's it's like kind of, and that Sentence has had a very lasting impact on me because I think about how much I contextualize things through, like when I try to logic through problems. Where I see something you, I think about it in a very linear path through the lens of English. Right, I don't know about you guys. Do you guys, just when you guys are talk, do you talk to yourself in your head? Absolutely, so it it's a conversation, right? You don't? You're not having like these complex thoughts without Conversation, right?
Speaker 1:When you're thinking at something yourself, or yeah, when you're thinking through a problem, you're kind of, you're using language. You're using language to do so, right, I'm not intelligent enough to To just think, right, just well, no, I, I well, some people I don't think they have that dialogue. They just think about the problem and then Somehow come up with a solution. So that happens for a lot of like minor things.
Speaker 3:But I'm talking about really complex things when you have to like, really I don't think in a like stream of language, like I don't like think in a conversation. If I'm thinking about how to solve a problem, I think in like, um, like ideas and patterns, if that makes sense. Like like, if I'm like trying to solve something, I think how, like, like in puzzle pieces, almost like.
Speaker 3:I don't think like oh so now I have to do this. I think in my head no thought of talking. Just how does it come together? I'm so different than that.
Speaker 2:That's an actual thing and I'm pretty sure you're probably gonna go there. There's people like, there's people who think like, like that, where you think in words, and then there's people who don't. It's just, it's, it's a psychological study, if they did. But like I would say, I'm, I'm closer to Kyle, but and I don't know, kyle, if you can add on to this at all but like I can Talk to myself if I'm consciously doing it the only time I have to think about it, or like I have to, I'm doing it on purpose. Yeah, like, I'm like.
Speaker 3:The only time in my head when I'm thinking and I'm talking in my head is when I'm prepping a sentence. When I'm thinking about how I'm going to say something. Then I can talk to myself in the head, but when, like I was just like a stream of consciousness, I'm never thinking in.
Speaker 1:in English, yeah, thinking in wow, so I 100% think in English. And it's to the point where, if I figure it out, I still have to articulate the sentence in my brain to conclude that thought like I can't just like oh, that's how you do it.
Speaker 3:I have to like finish talking to myself to Be able to like okay, move on to the next thought like, if you're talking right now, like how you just were, I am not answering you in my head I'm not talking. I'm like, if you're speaking and I'm listening to you, listening to you, I hear your voice in my head interesting.
Speaker 2:You know what, though, this makes sense in as far as like what we like about video games, like you're different than us, in, you know, like we like story you don't, so obvious, you know, it makes sense that our brains would be a little bit different that 100%, but my bringing it back to like the different.
Speaker 1:You know, like learning a different language. I would love to have that stream of like consciousness Through the lens of another language, because that would be Just the way things are described Like translations are. Go ahead, I don't want to get too far off. Probably looks like you have something.
Speaker 2:Well, so.
Speaker 3:Well, I was trying, so that I remembered it, so that I remembered what I was gonna say.
Speaker 2:We'll come back real quick because I have a comment on that, but what I was gonna say is that I recently watched through modern family and um, I saw this post on reddit and this like guy was appreciating this line and I think it is a really good line. It's in in the show. There's, uh, this character named gloria, really heavy spanish accent or columbian accent.
Speaker 1:She's a cleaning lady, right? No, do you know the one with the walks around the club.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:I swear to god, but family guy has the cleaning lady. No modern family. Oh, I think you're on my family guy.
Speaker 3:Oh it just so happens that she's, like you know, columbian. She's a cleaning lady, right, oh I?
Speaker 1:was trying to yeah.
Speaker 2:I can't.
Speaker 1:I can't Wow how you said family guy. Sorry.
Speaker 2:Well, anyways gloria. A comment she makes, the one that's married to jay. Yeah, a comment she makes in the show, because I think jay's making fun of her is. She says, like you don't know how smart I am in spanish, right, and it makes sense all four.
Speaker 3:She 케ek, I think you crashed the stream.
Speaker 1:I definitely unplugged it. Oh whoa, oh, are we just looping? Now there we go. Hold on, let me get the camera's not working right, hello.
Speaker 2:We are fixing it.
Speaker 3:We're good, are we?
Speaker 2:Yep, we're good now.
Speaker 3:OK.
Speaker 2:Cool, can you guys hear yeah?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I hope so, if you're hearing it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so what Fix it faster Trying?
Speaker 3:Actually I didn't do anything, I don't know. I said I'm trying. I just sat there while you guys fumbled. I'm trying.
Speaker 1:I did the nuclear option, which is just like.
Speaker 2:Unplugged everything.
Speaker 1:This one cord has our web camera, our internet connection and like six other things plugged into it.
Speaker 3:You sounded like you were just on the cusp of something yes, brilliant.
Speaker 2:So I was going to say I'll backtrack a little bit. Modern Family Gloria said that you know, you don't know how smart I am in Spanish, and you know it's true, because you have to think like anybody who's bilingual. They have to take a language that they learned then change it into what they understand. And going back now to your point, billy, is other languages have different perspectives on life 1000%. And how you're raised like, not even like just your understanding on the world is shaped by language. Like, I find that amazing and you know, I've, I've, I love psychology. I sucked at it at school. I could never pass, but I just I'm really interested in learning about it.
Speaker 2:And one of the studies I learned about a while ago was like you know, there's this, this remote tribe, right? And they didn't have a word for I don't remember the exact color, but they didn't have a word for a color and it was like purple. And what happened is like if you showed them purple, they wouldn't, they didn't know what it was. They would just say it's like green and it's so. It's like they couldn't perceive it because their language didn't have a word for it. So their brains were just like oh yeah, it's red.
Speaker 1:Right, and I we call things you know like teal, yeah, but how many languages don't have a name for teal? Yeah, so I that.
Speaker 1:that does amaze me. You know it totally shaped. That's why I think certain cultures are happier than others. Certain cultures handle like really bad events better than each other, cause like they have well, I got the Jews they have the like. What is it Yom Kippur? Have you that happened? I think yesterday, I think that's that's what it's called. But it's like a whole day to reflect on the previous year, on what you did. Why are you laughing? I don't understand. I'm part Jewish, okay.
Speaker 2:I can start laughing. He started laughing.
Speaker 1:All right, I'm part Jewish.
Speaker 1:They're part of my crew. All right, I'm not much, but I have some Jew in me. Listen, they, we, I'm a fucking. You guys don't have to fucking laugh at your ass up. We have Yom Kippur and I think that's what it's called. Anyway, one of the content creators that I watch um uh, practiced it yesterday. But it's basically what you do is you reflect on the previous year, for you don't do any work that day and you just think of, like, all the things that went well in your life and then all the things that you could have done better on the previous year. Culturally, like Americans, we don't have anything like that. Like we don't really have any time to go back, not living.
Speaker 1:We don't have never fucking, no, this is personal, like this isn't like nebulous, uh you know, but it's, we don't, we don't have but anything like that, to like self-reflect and go okay, this is, I made these poor decisions of my life. Let's go back and it's like a culturally observed day where nobody does any work.
Speaker 3:That's just my constant state of existing.
Speaker 1:There you go. You're constantly, always alpha, negotiating, like what you can be better, how disciplined of you. No, it's uh yeah, I, but there's to that point right, like now they have a bunch of language around supporting those ideas and like certainly they've dealt with some negative shit, right, and they've uh, culturally, and so they probably have a bunch of words and things to describe events that we don't even have or even can think of. And then you look at other cultures that probably, like you're talking about, I have descriptions or, uh, perceptions. One I I'm a romantic and I'm a total, total lover boy, but I used to write letters to my wife and I would do like research, you know.
Speaker 1:I found those little things and I would do research and like I started I think, has this actually started in high school when I first became aware of this, so I knew to write about it. But in Spanish you learn about like the term love in Spanish was like a more right, and then you learn the weight of what that word includes, right. Well, it's way like in English. I feel like love is just like a deep passion about something. In Spanish there's like 50,000 adjectives that like are like way more than that bullshit English description. And then there's other examples of love in different cultures that mean completely different things like way like you don't throw that word love around lightly. It is, it is weighted, it's impactful.
Speaker 2:I was going to add that in Japan, same thing love, but not same thing but different Love is a lot less weight than it is in America.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like it's more thrown around.
Speaker 1:See, it's all on a scale and it's so weird In Japan love is even more casual, yeah.
Speaker 2:The word love.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, because there's like not love, but like love. There's deeper describers for deeper feelings.
Speaker 3:I've always thought that people have been too cavalier with the word love. Like it's really quick for people to be like, oh, I love that person. I love that and I'm like, yeah, but stop.
Speaker 1:See? No, it needs to develop. Let it simmer. We got three years of no fucking.
Speaker 3:Four years of friendship yeah Right, somewhere in there. I love you too, man.
Speaker 2:I love you too, billy. I love you Paul.
Speaker 3:I love all of you guys.
Speaker 2:See when, then that's the thing like I do. I love my friends, like you know my friends, yeah not all my like you guys and then some of my other friends like, but it's not. Not romantic love, except for Kyle. You know I have a lot of time to go. Naturally, naturally but, it's like I don't know. I've always found it kind of weird how some people are afraid to do that.
Speaker 3:I guess you know, I'm not afraid of the year, but my thing is is like I've known people that like will be like oh, I love you after like no time at all. Yeah, you know, and I'm like, love is like a very, whether it's romantic love or a platonic love, that's like a very serious emotion for me. And so I don't just say I love you to like someone that I think is a swell person. You know what I mean Like oh, buddy, I love you man.
Speaker 3:I'll be like man, you're awesome. I would say that way before, like way before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like love, I don't cool.
Speaker 3:I might jokingly say I love someone. I'm never joking with you guys.
Speaker 1:Victory says I knew it. Oh hey, that's a good thing You're selective.
Speaker 3:I've been with my wife for 10 years Not long enough.
Speaker 2:I just started saying I love you last week, Last week Last week Wow Chat. What do you think on that? Is that that a little crazy?
Speaker 1:Well, I also think it could be, it could go too far to right where you've watched I never really experienced it in my life because I grew up in that household that was very loving and you know both parents stay together and you watch these movies where some people their dad had never told them they loved them or their mom never said I love you or whatever. So I think there's like an extreme to not say that. And then there's the over usage of it where it's like, oh, that's just my mom Throwaway comment.
Speaker 3:Very lovely, yeah, she was very like quick to be the comforting mama bear type of affectionate. Yeah, my dad. I never doubted he loved me. But you know, we just it's an unspoken thing. Yeah, I mean like I stopped. I haven't given my dad a hug in probably 20 years.
Speaker 1:That's nutty, I'm not going to lie to you. But, like I love my dad.
Speaker 3:We just have a different kind of relationship. I feel, like you know, like I don't ever say if you hugged him the next time you saw him.
Speaker 1:What do you think he'd say?
Speaker 3:He'd react like kind of like when he grabbed your ass happening Grab your house.
Speaker 1:This is the moment I'm waiting for.
Speaker 3:Like he. Um, I remember a lot of hugging him when I was a kid, Of course, Like when you get home from work we'd be like oh, dad, you know, run over give him a hug and you'd hug back. But like once I I would say like eight years old is when it was like Tan shake was I? Wow, I seriously don't I. It's been probably about 20 years since I gave him, my dad, a hug.
Speaker 2:You guys want to hear something embarrassing. Personally, embarrassment I don't know if it's actually embarrassing, but so growing up, um, I used to call my dad by his first name. I used to call him Ted when I was little. And so my mom had to start calling him daddy. You get me to say daddy.
Speaker 3:Do you think that ever incited anything?
Speaker 2:No, but I still it's so ingrained in my brain that I still like I'll call him daddy, and it's like I hate. I know how embarrassing it is, but it's like it's not even. I don't think about it, unless other people around that don't know.
Speaker 1:I have two cousins, well into their thirties, almost 40, that call their mommy and daddy. So it's like super normal and we make fun of them every time. But they don't. They don't know any different and it's like I call my mom mother, mother, mother.
Speaker 3:Actually, when I was a teenager I used to say mother and she would get so pissed because she's feeling like. It sounds like I want to say mother, fucker, like what mother?
Speaker 2:Man wow, we got really deep there.
Speaker 1:I want to go there's a room to go deeper.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, let's see.
Speaker 1:Oh, I don't know, but I'm feeling uncomfortable, bringing it back to, to learning another language. I think they bring it back to Lord of the Rings. All the way. Love the orcs speak it.
Speaker 3:You don't know how smart an orc is in their own language. In their own language.
Speaker 1:They actually don't know what their language is called Orcish. Orcish, is that it?
Speaker 3:I don't know, man, do they even speak anything other than English? They speak English when they're talking to each other.
Speaker 1:Well, they're in game for us Looks like it's back on the menu, boys. Black speech oh damn.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:I'm showing us up man Black speech.
Speaker 3:Well, that's but that sounds like something Billy would call us.
Speaker 1:Black. Okay, guys, black speech is not all what all orcs speak, though right, that's only from Goldoone, or?
Speaker 3:The fish really lost me. I'd like to think I'm going to. I think it's from one of their.
Speaker 1:It's only from one of their, maybe it's just the language of Mordor Shine, like Google, but regardless, my whole thing is I know what kind of learner I am and I am absolutely by definition. I do these character tests. I'm a learner. That's always my first skill set, but the things that I learn that's just the projects that we've been working on this past weekend is things that are very practical, functional. I can use them Learning another language. I don't know if my brain can fully commit to that, because I just don't know how practical it's going to be Well, unless even if I learn Spanish even I learned Spanish, maybe once a month, I might find a way to use it, maybe even in like Hola, yeah, right, and so I would.
Speaker 2:I would really, really struggle with the ring is written in. It's just spoken in Mordor.
Speaker 1:Just spoken in Mordor.
Speaker 3:According to Wikipedia, orcish language the orcs had no language of their own, merely a pigeon of many various languages. However, individual tribes developed dialects that differed so widely that Western, often with a crude accent, was used as a common language.
Speaker 1:Western, western, west, rose, martin and Tolkien at battle. What, what yeah?
Speaker 3:What are we even saying right now? What the?
Speaker 1:Canis nice. That might be the most racist thing I've ever.
Speaker 2:Orcinese. I don't know, Billy. You get pretty racist a lot of the time.
Speaker 3:You know thinking about the. You don't know how smart I am in my own language. I had a co-worker once.
Speaker 1:That's what you're going to say. I ain't fucking genius.
Speaker 3:You've never heard me speak my native tongue. What would you guys do if I randomly just started speaking?
Speaker 1:black Mordor, just oh sorry.
Speaker 3:No, I had a co-worker because I was talking, I was kind of making fun of Shakira's voice, because she's got kind of that you know voice. I'm talking about Kind of a funny voice Like a hollow rasp yeah. Like she comes from the back of her throat and it sounds kind of funny. My co-worker, who is native Spanish speaker, said she sounds amazing in Spanish when she sings. She sounds beautiful in Spanish and, for whatever reason, she sounds totally different when she sings in English.
Speaker 2:Here it sounds like Kermit the Frog.
Speaker 3:Yeah, kermit the Frog, exactly, but in Spanish, and I can't verify this because obviously I don't speak Spanish. But apparently she sounds nothing like that in Spanish.
Speaker 2:Makes sense.
Speaker 3:In Spanish language.
Speaker 2:I mean, accent is a thing you know, like when they speak English, they won. People speak English as their second language when those lesser to me like that's oh boy, I've been hanging around Billy too much as you can see picking up on his mannerisms.
Speaker 3:This is on the internet forever, forever, good, good.
Speaker 1:I'm the one with a fucking American flag on his shirt let's just have a moment.
Speaker 2:April 12th for Sumter.
Speaker 3:That's right. I'm not entirely convinced. You even get dressed with your eyes open, though, like I feel like if you're not going to like a work function, I feel like you don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1:I literally don't at all. I spend zero time. I find this shirt, it's clean.
Speaker 2:I put it on how much thought do you put in your outfits? Kyle for work yeah, I wear like you plan out the whole week or is it just morning?
Speaker 3:no, I wear the same thing Monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday. So like I know exactly what I'm aware. Like this is my Tuesday shirt. So, but you wear that every Tuesday for the most part. Yeah, it varies, but this is my Tuesday shirt. Having working working at a bank has really changed the way I approach getting ready in the morning I didn't have to worry about that like a flannel and pair of jeans and boots is like what I wake up and I'm like these jeans and then I'm like this shirt and I'm like what goes good with this shirt all right, yeah, like I, it's just right there and yeah.
Speaker 1:I work from home, so I only have to be dressed from the waist up, so it's shorts, sweatpants and then a collared shirt. Do you like sweatpants, billy? I'm the god of sweat. I don't like sweatpants my, I went to school and the music teacher called me sweatpants boy, not even joking so I used to wear sweatpants a lot.
Speaker 2:I have two reasons I don't like it. I think they combined into why I don't like them now. I used to wear sweatpants all the time and you know, my dad pulled me aside one day.
Speaker 1:He's like you can't wear him anymore it was middle school and as a boy starts to change, some effect happens to his body and everyone saw your boner yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's one reason. The other reason is I have really hairy legs and the static electricity makes it feel dirty. I don't know. It's weird, like my when I wear sweat it's like it feels like my legs are dirty jeans.
Speaker 1:No, but there so I wore sweatpants pretty much all seventh grade and then I well like seventh grade and down, so like from first to seventh, and then I got the whole, of course.
Speaker 3:I think I.
Speaker 1:I think I existed, with a boner from seventh grade. I think I'm boy. I got 50 erections a day if the wind would blue wrong you hide him unless you're a grown boy going through puberty.
Speaker 3:I don't think that like a woman could ever grasp how easy it is for a male going through puberty to get turned on this dude.
Speaker 1:I would it wouldn't even be getting turned on, like you could just be walking it.
Speaker 3:Yes, I don't even fucking want that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude, seriously go away. Yeah, exactly like down boy sit. But I didn't switch wearing sweatpants because of that. I was getting picked on by this motherfucker and music teacher no sweatpants lady was sweet and she was sent from grammar school, but no, I won't say this fuckers name, but he was a. He's probably like 18 years old in the eighth grade and wow yeah, he was a winner?
Speaker 1:oh, but he was an absolute unit, real special guy let's put it this way, I got paired with him in science class and because it was like randomized, and of course I fucking got this guy my bully and we have a project, we split the project down the middle and I get him. I gave him a floppy disk yes, we use floppy disks and he, you know, he loaded on there porn nice instead of this project and I just happened to check it before we went live with it like to present it to the class and what a winner oh shit, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, he got in big trouble for that, but yeah which. And then that was of course worse for me because I ratted on it, but anyway, I started wearing jeans cuz that night really got there and I'm super hero.
Speaker 3:Origin story yeah, no shit.
Speaker 1:And then I full full corrected from that to like dressing super, super nice for a long time you're wearing suits every day. I would love I worse, I only own slacks. I actually didn't. I don't like jeans to this day, I don't know no, I am a slacks or sweatpants.
Speaker 2:I had the opposite effect. It was from that day that my dad was like I like love jeans interesting, can't stand him.
Speaker 1:I don't like how they feel at all. I love slacks, though.
Speaker 3:Good quality pair of slacks I've never liked sweats, and the reason is because I have a three foot car.
Speaker 3:Yes, I was into skateboarding from a really young age and, for whatever reason, at least at that time. I don't know what the lingo is now, but like, at that time, like skaters did not wear anything other than jeans. They didn't wear shorts and they were sweats. They wore jeans, tight jeans, skinny jeans. Well, when I first got into skating, it was actually mostly baggy jeans. Skinny jeans wasn't until like high schoolish age. So, yeah, so like, if I were to ever wear sweats and go to the skate park, I would get like bullied by the other skaters and they were like this douche and skinny jeans are definitely like a part of that scene for sure it was like the whole.
Speaker 3:Look, this is like still when I first got into skating, this was like still late 90s, like very early 2000, so like baggy, baggy jeans was still like cool. And then it was like 2007 is when all of a sudden, like the scene emo thing started happening and, like you know, you'd wear jeans so fucking tight that like you'd have to be so into them like they were so tight let me put it this way never once in my life have I had style ever and it's like literally never been important to me.
Speaker 1:I just want to look nice. It's no good, that's like all. That's literally all I care about. I never had, like I was the kid you know. I think this even speaks to my because I'm a pretty athletic person, but I think this is speaks to my palette for sports. I was terrible at skating generally with like balance sports I was not good at because I just I didn't have great balance. But I also think the biggest reason was I had no appetite for the risk. Reward in skating is so for me not there, because the risk is you fall and you scratch up your elbows and your knees and all this bullshit and like and then you land this like cool trick. So I was able to like pop, shove it's. I could all he really really well and I was about it and but I never learned how to do a kick flip, never learned how to do a heel flip.
Speaker 1:But we have these jumps, these plastic fucking jumps, and the worst and I was too heavy for them and and the lips were fraying up and I would, my wheels would get stuck in them and I would get yeeted forward and it was just terrible. I was so sick of them and somehow these fucking guys figured out they could do it all day long, no problem, but me and my brother I don't know what. It was just fucking bad luck city. We were Matthew.
Speaker 1:Matthew was definitely bigger at that time so maybe it was a way to I don't know what it was, but the risk reward was there and I was a kid that my parents forced us to wear helmets, so I was always in the helmet. But I was also the kid that liked wearing a helmet because I felt a little more daring and to the point where I wanted to wear elbow pads, knee pads and wrist guards.
Speaker 3:So I'm like fucking, if I'm gonna be out here, I want to be able to go crazy, you know but just like in hindsight, like I would never think about letting my kids skate without like helmet, helmet on and like you never. I never fucking wore and I still, to this day, it's in my head. Like you know, you're lame. If you know what I mean safety, lame and like ever.
Speaker 1:Once you could, you would. You would never catch me without a helmet.
Speaker 1:I learned how to fall and protect my head because I've fallen a lot and I've never had a hidden head skill, only concussions every so often right now, but um there's only two times of my whole life when I wore I wore my helmet every day for my whole life when I would skate and do whatever ride my scooter, ride my bike, whatever was two times where that helmet came in big handy because I fell back and it hit on a curb. The one time and I remember just thinking thank god I have a helmet because I would have really racked myself.
Speaker 3:I was in martial arts my whole life too, and so like I learned how to fall pretty well like as far as like rolling and that kind of thing. So like I, you know, I, generally for the most part I was always able to protect my head. But it's just stupid to not wear a helmet.
Speaker 3:But like it's lame but yeah, like and going to skate parks, like I don't know what the culture is like now, because now I'm at an age now where, like, people don't fuck with me you know what I mean like I could wear whatever I want and some teenagers not gonna come up and talk to me, like because I'm really tall and like you know, but like as a like a teenager myself, like if you showed any amount of anything that could be slightly picked on at a skate park, you, they would happen, they would just relentlessly follow you make funny you and like you know you, like I remember just like getting bullied out of skate parks for it, and so I'd have to change before I went back and not there was a whole culture with skate parks to where you didn't want to be in the way yeah like some people would be doing, like these long lines, and you wouldn't want to be in their way because they'd yell at you and shit and I love, I love stating, and I think that those types of people in my life have generally been a minority, but if it's a bad experience, those are the ones you hang on to you
Speaker 3:don't hang on to the good experiences and also depends on what skate park you want. You got to think about, like the, the area of town you're in, like you know, sun Valley, you know like, yeah, went to that skate park a lot and they were always dealing with some bullshit there. But like you go to, like you know, lazy five, you know never really had any problems there because it's in a fine area yeah, and maybe there's something to do with that.
Speaker 1:I used to, when I I'd go down to when I lived at the my apartment, we would walk to Mariloma no and that's huge, and I feel like the culture is so different from when we grew up you think that? It's? It's softer now, or is I see a lot more parent involvement? No, when we would go to the state first wild west a fucking parent.
Speaker 3:You got dropped off and you told your parents to get in fights like all the time to just kind of like ignored it.
Speaker 1:You're like okay, I think everybody's trying to to get famous like everybody's recording their own shit and I think it's just. I think it's so different from what and the.
Speaker 3:I don't know if this has changed at all, but I remember, just like the, the drugs. Oh, god was a lot more rampant you want anything yeah, I was like you know, you'd be there for like 10 minutes and you'd be someone trying to sell you something like I'm 13 years old like perfect opportunity yeah, get you hooked young.
Speaker 2:So I have two thought experiments. I've been yeah, stewing on for you guys. Get me first. One is gonna be little controversial, mmm. Have you guys ever had the thought that you might? Be, gay. Oh okay, why are you? Looking at me and laughing have you ever had the thought that, like you, might be mentally challenged and everybody else is like pretending to make you fit in there all the?
Speaker 3:time growing up, I was constantly thinking I think I must be like have severe autism and everyone's just like afraid of telling me. Just be nice to me, be nice to me I. I had that complex for like a good like 15 years where I was always thinking that you had, you had, you had quirks that you definitely grew out of. Maybe, you probably I think I might be on the spectrum somewhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely, maybe when you were younger but you grew out of those remember you would repeat everything under your breath yeah, that you haven't done that. I haven't heard you do that in like 20 years.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'd like to think I wasn't as socially awkward as brick from the middle.
Speaker 1:But hey, you hung out with us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, but like sometimes I not so much anymore, but I used to think that, like you know it's like, are my friends, are they just like do I actually have value to them?
Speaker 1:I don't get that. I don't think I'm mentally challenged no but I think he doesn't know he doesn't know yeah maybe, maybe. What I do get is severe imposter syndrome. I do. I don't get severe.
Speaker 1:Everybody is like so much smarter than me, huh, and it makes me it's a kind of a good thing, because I wheeled it in the sense of like I over prepare, I overthink things through because I feel like that's what everybody's doing. And then, and then it's like this weird circle about like six months into a new job or a year into a new job. I'm like, oh, everybody's bullshit, I got it kind of clicks.
Speaker 3:I'm like, oh, okay there just, I think that's a kind of a a product of you being as successful as you are at your age. You know, I know we joked about. You're like oh, you know you have a friend that went to Harvard Med or whatever, but like there's not a lot of people 30 years old that are at the level that you're at and so I think that's natural for you to have those thoughts of like do I deserve to be here, like you wouldn't?
Speaker 3:I mean, I think that's natural of just moving up as high as you have, as quickly as you have, and there's nothing wrong with that. I, I felt yeah, I felt a little bit of an imposter syndrome when I first became a branch manager. I remember thinking like do I definitely just faked it you know, like.
Speaker 3:I just faked it all the way to this point. I don't think I did anything to deserve this other than, like, know how to talk to people yeah, and then I got to know all of my peers and I was like man. They all faked it too. Like they all are the exact same. I'm exactly.
Speaker 1:I come a much better exactly I always start there when I'm ever doing something new, but then I have that full circle moment where it's like, oh, all these people are the same thing, yeah, or this guy's full of shit. Yeah, I thought he was so great and then, oh, he's not.
Speaker 3:I've learned that about some people I've worked with too. We're like I. In my head I was like man. They're just like awesome they got their shit together, yeah and then, like I talked to their boss and like they'll be like that's the worst never does anything, he's supposed to never. And I'm like that person, yeah, like damn, like so yeah all right second experiment this chat.
Speaker 2:Get engaged with this one. Right? I want numbers. I've asked you guys this before, but I don't think we did. It might have been a while ago, we might have done. How many toddlers call same style do you think you could take out?
Speaker 3:we've had this conversation. Do we have it on the?
Speaker 2:podcast, though that, what, that's what I don't know, but we can have it infinite.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, that last time I know.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:I would fucking punt the shit out of energy what is.
Speaker 2:I don't understand they're.
Speaker 1:I would constant wave first off, todd, you're talking about toddlers that are not court like choreographed at all. They are just mindless zombies walking around their intent is to kill you there's their fucking toddler. Yeah, they see the Sun. No, no they get distracted in in this body.
Speaker 2:So now they're not real toddlers no, they are robots, but they are one instinct. I would. Their one instinct is to kill you.
Speaker 1:You would fucking kick the head off of a toddler and use wield his body and all of them would be fucking you would not be able to fight an infinite amount.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you run out of energy.
Speaker 1:So to what? Take a nap you? Where would?
Speaker 2:you take a nap.
Speaker 1:I would climb up something three feet near no, you're in the middle of a coliseum.
Speaker 3:There's no escape, no platforms, completely flagger yeah okay, I would say it's about.
Speaker 2:However many toddlers at least 70 chat says yeah I. However many toddlers they could supply. However many toddlers they could supply, I could handle it's an infinite amount when they get these others they're, so why would they be trying to kill you?
Speaker 1:What's a toddler to you? A two-year-old? Right like a two-year-old, yeah. So they just barely learn how to walk and they got a shitty diaper and they're trying to kill you I.
Speaker 2:Would fucking smoke. I want a more realistic number than an infinite a hundred thousand.
Speaker 3:Are we finding them all at once or one by one? You would not fight a hundred thousand of anything.
Speaker 1:Okay, so let's say they came all came because they could just fall on you and something. Yeah, okay, how are they falling on? To me, though, are they infinite, or are they just a way?
Speaker 3:I think it's just if they're one by.
Speaker 1:They're marching in.
Speaker 2:They're marching in, coming in, so the all, all around you would cut down, so they wouldn't have the strength to climb on each other.
Speaker 1:They would just fall over and they would create their own fucking hill from their bodies laying there, and then I could fucking chill there and they would never even be able to get over it, so you'd fall asleep, and then they'd suffocate you by climbing on top of you. No, because I would build a fucking fort with their bodies.
Speaker 2:What if they had knives, duck tape to their hands?
Speaker 1:there, they're a toddler jingle bees. Kill them with what? My fists, my foot, one punt, that head is coming off.
Speaker 3:Here's the thing, boom, you wouldn't have the moral capability.
Speaker 1:Oh no but these are robotic toddlers trained by somebody that fucking with one purpose. I have how would they kill me, suffocate me, suffocate you, telling you you would build a barricade with their bodies. And they wouldn't. They don't have the strength to get over it. But what if they're?
Speaker 2:so and they're on Corey like uncorky zombie level that many that speed, that Aggressive speed, but just like that many. So eventually they would push over the wall Just sheer numbers alone.
Speaker 1:No, I don't, I disagree, you disagree that they do not have they are determined Some level their amount of inertia, is not able to exert enough force. Move this pile. Well, is the pile of dead toddlers?
Speaker 2:Yes, I would build it.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay, so that, yeah, I would smoke a toddler and and fucking build my wall. I think, I could climb over and take a sweet nap when I get tired. Maybe get a grill going. Toddler, yeah, have the audience. Throw some burgers down. What about you? Victory huh. How many do you think you could do?
Speaker 3:it depends on how they they attack so like. If it's like a wave of toddlers, well I have to do is fall on you and then you suffocate. Obviously, a hundred thousand of them would kill you if they fell on top of you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're falling from the sky. Yeah, you're getting nuked by some toddlers, but if they're stumbling and bumbling in like a toddler would no problem, we got a question in chat hit me.
Speaker 2:So would you rather fight one elephant-sized toddler or a hundred toddler sized elephants?
Speaker 3:I Feel like a toddler sized elephant would fuck you up more than a toddler would.
Speaker 2:Yeah, one elephant sized toddler, though, how would you kill?
Speaker 1:it you could, it would be too big. That's like 10. That why they weigh like 8,000 pounds.
Speaker 2:That thing would, it's yeah it's mumbling. It didn't fall on you and you'd be dead.
Speaker 3:Now you just get behind it and joke it out.
Speaker 1:I would just like ride on it and just.
Speaker 2:I think I would rather face the hundred Elephant size. Did you just say, right, toddler sized?
Speaker 1:elephants toddler size elephant. None.
Speaker 2:None victory. Yeah, that sounds. You would just let them kill you. She would, a hundred percent. There's no way they're evil toddlers, okay.
Speaker 3:This is. This is the woman that I said in a zombie apocalypse. You know what is the plan? She said zombie dinner is what she would be. That was her plan.
Speaker 1:Wow, not even, not even hesitation.
Speaker 3:It's like that puts a lot of pressure on me.
Speaker 1:It'd be tough cuz like I feel like a toddler sized elephant, a hundred toddler sized elephants they would.
Speaker 2:That would be harder to mess up Because their bones would be so dead well in their tuss yeah, like I think I think a hundred toddler sized elephants you would be okay with, as long as you like managed. You might have some like bloody ankles from their tusks, but you probably survive.
Speaker 3:Here's the real question. Do you think? The three of us Versus one chimp?
Speaker 1:Oh Come out alive. No, I'm kind of champ, just a chimpanzee no foreground?
Speaker 2:I do not think so.
Speaker 1:We would die just with our fists chimpanzees yeah, kyle's get ready, get ready.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, yeah they don't just kill you, they go after your weak points. They'll rip your legs off or rip your arms off. They'll celebrate. Have you heard of the Gombe Chimp War of the 1970s?
Speaker 2:We have heard about it, but oh my god.
Speaker 3:So the Gombe Chimp War, the 1970s. There was a tribe of chimpanzees. They splintered off because one Younger male didn't appreciate what the alpha male was doing. So they became Two different tribes the younger male tribe. They ended up getting more followers. They systematically hunted down all of the Like the OG tribe, and killed them all like, one by one. They hunted this one chimp and they like Killed him.
Speaker 3:And then they were all chanting and like, holding that this chimps head in the air and they're all dancing around drinking the blood from the skull. It was Disturbing, to say the least. Chimpanzees they don't, and if they, when they attack humans, they don't just kill you, they'll rip off your arms, they'll rip off your legs, they'll rip off your dick, yep, and you're nothing but this like Stumpless. They do it for fun, dickless like thing and they, they're diggit jealous. So there's a story of this guy that raised this chimp and then he surrendered it to the zoo and Then he went to go visit that chimp for his birthday and gave him a cake. Another chimp saw that, got jealous, broke out of the enclosure, hunted that man down, ripped his face off.
Speaker 2:The guy was like paralyzed for the rest of his life. Have you ever heard of the human Z?
Speaker 3:shut the fuck up Russia. They did experiments in the 1920s where they're trying to combine the DNA of humans and chimps. They did it.
Speaker 2:You can look it up online. It's not fucking real. The human Z.
Speaker 3:There's pictures the human Z.
Speaker 1:There's one. It's carrying a purse. There's no way. There's no way we could take a chimpanzee. No, we would die, I have any maybe in orangutan, but even them they have fucking insane strength and I've seen one just grab a dude and just Throw them up against the cage. It's an underling these are.
Speaker 3:They have all the capabilities of being very sweet creatures, but they're also they are sociopaths.
Speaker 1:They have no connection to any kind of moral anything see, but I think also we're creating an artificial Setting, like if you, if you're talking like one-by-one Colosseum style, like there- yeah, that's a hundred percent an artificial. That's good, let's make it realistic.
Speaker 2:What if?
Speaker 3:you came across a hundred toddlers, let's go to a day, the wild, it's gonna take care and say would you allow us to fight in your care to prove?
Speaker 1:Break its neck? No, but the let's. Let's like take a setting in the real world, like in a forest or something. Yeah, I think the three of us could probably take on one if, because we got to remember, we have in a forest.
Speaker 3:Yeah, now we can crack out, I have all the aerial advantage. We're talking about chimps, still right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, toddlers.
Speaker 3:But, I don't, I would never fight a chip in a forest. Are you mad then?
Speaker 1:Well, hold on though, but we have our brain still like he sees us. Whatever he's not gonna I don't think he's gonna. I Don't even know what he would gain- from rage out on us, if his intent is to kill us. He's not gonna use any tools. It doesn't matter what setting your. His fists are tools, correct, but we have our brains so we can throw yeah, you know how useless our brains are when they're splattered on the floor.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, they're not that useful when that's that too far, too late. But if we have the time to plan and attack, if we have enough prep time, we could grab stones, we can gather sticks, we can make spears.
Speaker 3:We don't have any weapons, we don't have any machine.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying in the real world, we could put our brains together and come up with stuff that we could Fasten and create tools and weapons.
Speaker 2:I'll create a scenario right now, billy. For some reason, we're the you're a Walk no podcast takes off. We do a special episode where we go on the forest live recording live recording chimpanzee Fucking sees us ready to take us out.
Speaker 1:That's it hundred feet away. Easy, we start with and you take the monitor, arms and stuff. We have a bunch of metal here. We have stuff like we could split this off. You think that would stop a chimp? It would slow it the fuck down. I think honestly, the three of us would never seen a hairless chin.
Speaker 3:Oh my god.
Speaker 2:Yeah, chimp isn't gonna give you prep time. Thank you, jingle bees. A chimp isn't. They're gonna come after you and.
Speaker 3:In a forest that have all of the advantage they're gonna rush the the.
Speaker 2:They're gonna bum rush the.
Speaker 3:I watch this documentary where these chimp for hunting these monkeys and they, they like, like, surrounded the monkeys, like completely, so the monkey had no to go, and then they all closed in the circle and then they just slaughtered all the monkeys.
Speaker 2:So I, that's what, that's what. And I think you underestimate how strong they are there. Fuck, I know I was trying there like if we hit it with an arm of this, I think he would shrug it off. He'd be like as he's ripping our face off. I Don't think. I think if we bloodlust would be so high, yeah, this would not affect it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess we would also panic and then probably try to run and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:So if you take the how running a trip, how running a trip.
Speaker 1:So double the toast you do, you wouldn't stand a chance. I Think there's a chance. I'm not saying we would win 10 out of 10. I honestly think if we were, if we were in the proper setting and we had we could use our brains and and and be able to we could see an attack coming. We could react in a way and leverage the stuff around us to fuck it up, scare it, hurt it in some way. I'm not saying all the survive. We're probably definitely getting fucked up. So I'm well. Here's the thing I think we would have a chance is, I do think, now, now.
Speaker 2:Realistically hopping off the Kyle bandwagon. Here I do think us three could take on a one chimp. But here there's only one way we would win, and it would require one of us getting beat to shit. The monkey would be attacking one of us. The other two can choke out the chimp. Oh, I don't know if you, I don't know if you can get behind it.
Speaker 1:Bro, I think it's muscles or it's so thick around the neck.
Speaker 3:So in a, in a ratio of like how strong a man is, like a chimp to man. Oh yeah, they can. So a chimpanzee is. Anywhere from three to five times stronger than a human being. So that what that means on average, if you can, if a man can bench press 200, the same chimp, at like, the same body weight, can bench press a thousand. Yeah, never mind, I don't think we could choke it out, they would grab you.
Speaker 2:Well, okay, I'm not gonna go get you, I'm gonna get you, I'm gonna get you, I'm gonna get you, I'm gonna get you, I'm gonna get you. Well.
Speaker 3:I can throw you what if you have like a?
Speaker 2:stick to like choke it out with.
Speaker 1:I'm not choking on stabbing, this Stabbing.
Speaker 3:I think you have much more likelihood of succeeding.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna wield it like this and clubbing it in the head or stabbing in the eye. I'm gonna distract it. Keep it at it, keep it at its distance. You guys are throwing rocks at it like I think there's. I think there's a chance. Would we get fucked up? Yes, I think there's a chance, though I don't think it's zero. Now, if it's a straight up call, a CM fight, one view or 3v1, no, we're screwed. We're screwed.
Speaker 1:Yeah but like you're not gonna go toe to toe this fight with a chimpanzee, no, but if we had the natural like forest, I honestly think we could. We could grab some stuff and fuck them up so you get some fire going. Freak them out, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2:I want to take it and I'm gonna turn it on a on a cool note with monkeys, if you guys are done talking about the dark side of.
Speaker 1:That's not a dark side about monkeys.
Speaker 3:There's nothing dark about nature. Okay, it's simply is fine, we'll take a more positive.
Speaker 1:Give it at him, bro.
Speaker 2:I Find it fascinating. I do love. I love monkeys and chimps and apes, like I find them so fascinating.
Speaker 2:I know they're scary but like seeing the sign language and stuff. But I wanted to go towards I Was watching this Documentary and so we aren't sure when. As far as like evolution, where we split from chimps like we don't know why, and the best theory Jesus yes, Jesus no the best theory is that we got kicked out and we got kicked to the forest floor and then something I this still fascinates me that like something like this could happen. When we were kicked to the forest floor, our monkey ancestors Decided to like give up a part of our brain so that we could form language.
Speaker 2:Give up a part of our yeah, so they, and there is actual study towards it. So monkeys that remember the test we took online, the, the human Bench point, benchmark, yeah, benchmark, yeah. So monkeys have a much better law or short-term memory, and the theory is is that we gave that up to get language, because they think that when we split off, we decided that was a less important part and so we had in our brain and it died out and then we developed language, and that the reason monkeys still have it is Because out in the wild they need to be able to see all the dangers and remember that where they're from, we wouldn't be able to do that as well. Like they'd say oh there's seven other monkeys here.
Speaker 3:We'd be like you know it's wild to think about neanderthals and humans Existed during the same time period. So like the evolved version of a human exists at the same time as like our most immediate predecessor, and they used to just have sex all the time and they would like there would be like all these hybrid, weird things.
Speaker 1:And like Even 23 and me. When you do like your heavy guys, done that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's always a little neanderthal and everybody.
Speaker 1:Shows like how much neanderthal you have and you know some people are way higher than others.
Speaker 3:I don't remember what mine is that seems like it could be a Dangerous topic to talk about. You have more neanderthal than you, than I do 10% neanderthal neanderthals. I mean it's it's like a derogatory term now, but really they're just like shorter, more muscular.
Speaker 2:Dense humans is what they were guys, we're gonna get flagged and reported.
Speaker 1:Good, maybe we'll finally stop recording.
Speaker 2:I thought the mental hand and you know mentally handicapped was gonna get us flagged, not the chimp talk the chimp.
Speaker 3:To be honest, the gumbay chimp.
Speaker 1:Look it up now when I brought up the Jews.
Speaker 3:The Jew yeah you saved it when you said hey, I'm part you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what you should have prefaced with that should open with that. She said so I'm part you.
Speaker 1:It's kind of funny because when I did 23 me, I saw that on it. I'm like wow, never heard, never knew that my hand. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Killing me. Oh, so we got a story for you guys. Should we tell it?
Speaker 4:It's your. I already preface it already my story to tell.
Speaker 3:We were all there all three of us were there. Yeah none of us stopped it.
Speaker 2:So I wasn't we are very intelligent men.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you just had your face directly in.
Speaker 2:Speaking of our comparison to chimps. This is where it gets real close. This is where you start to see the connections right. So we're doing some yard work for to help out Billy here and we decide we're gonna cut the bolt right, and this bolt because it couldn't fit in the nut, and so so Billy grabs his, his cutter, angle grinder, angle grinder, and he and he gets a set of Pliers to hold the the bolt, because we don't have my script.
Speaker 2:We don't have a vice grip. So he's holding it first Getting dark, Kyle's holding it right and he's just holding it. You know, un Unimpeded, or I'm just holding it.
Speaker 3:no gloves, yeah, and so we try.
Speaker 2:That didn't work because every time I'd push on it Kyle would move. It was shooting the flames also directly directly into his face.
Speaker 2:So we. Then you have the smart idea of okay, we're gonna, we're gonna brace it on the floor right and on a rock. We get it there, I turn it on, shoots Kyle or Billy's holding the, the pliers. This time shoots Billy in the face. So I stop and Kyle's like you know what? I have a great idea. He had gloves on. He's like I'll put my hand in front of Billy's face and you go ahead, dylan. And so I start going at it and I've gone and the sparks are flying. Hit Kyle's hand. It's going good, I'm blocking all of the all the sparks inflate.
Speaker 3:Shrapnel that, you know, is like a thousand degrees he's hitting.
Speaker 2:Kyle's hand with a glove. That is the thickness of a paper plate. Maybe, not maybe.
Speaker 3:It's going good. It's going good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're doing not hitting him in the face. I'm about halfway through gloves hold, about halfway through the the bolt and then all of a sudden, kyle goes out.
Speaker 3:I Said out Yep, I'm on fire.
Speaker 2:And we stop. It burnt a hole in his glove and gave him like it's seared through my flesh and just one specific point in the glove.
Speaker 3:It actually burned Through the glove and it all happened in like matter of seconds. It was so quick.
Speaker 2:And now, what part of that is smart? No, I was the audience. No, you know, all three of us were complicit.
Speaker 3:We all were like this is a great idea.
Speaker 1:We knew it was a bad idea but no, this is where I think we have to admit where we were done. Was we continued after that?
Speaker 2:Well, and we could have moved to the side you could have. You're holding it like this. You could have held it like this right, well, yeah, but.
Speaker 3:I, I don't matter.
Speaker 1:I doesn't matter, I cuz I move, I did move to the side yeah, it was just if we had yeah, we had like 90% of the right tools, not the one that we need.
Speaker 2:Our genius is showing.
Speaker 3:Thank you here's the real kicker. We didn't actually ever get through that, but yeah we had.
Speaker 2:It was barely any left, and you know we just decided.
Speaker 1:Big sons of bitches they were not those gloves no, not those gloves.
Speaker 2:The gloves were paper thin yeah, victory.
Speaker 1:This happened about an hour and a half ago. Yeah, so Kyle has burns on his hand.
Speaker 2:Now he's gonna need severe urgent care. He's gonna need to get crazy here. Really good care of it. He's a hurt little baby.
Speaker 3:Billy's lovely wife put burn cream on me and sealed it up, which it just fell off, and that's what made me think of it just now, because it burns when it's exposed.
Speaker 1:But the chat wants to see it you you.
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I can get close up of the gross should I try do it yeah, he says no do it what kind of sick fuck are you jiggle me? What kind you?
Speaker 1:want to see blistered skin come on content is this do it just do it.
Speaker 3:Do it, kyle, oh my god, what? What is that? What? What does this podcast become? All right, this is supposed to be a nerd podcast. We're supposed to be talking about Lord of the Rings. This would be the thumbnail.
Speaker 1:I'm showing you have to guide me jiggle bees is gonna call your ass out. You might go pussy.
Speaker 3:It's down closer, move in oh yeah oh yeah, little closer up, oh yeah there you go like I put a cigarette out on you, so are you satisfied chat jingle bees so nasty gnarly chat says yeah, that's, it was pretty gnar not the dumbest thing I've ever done, but it definitely didn't feel smart at any point could you imagine if, like, we cut off somebody's finger, or if the grinder just dug into somebody's hand? There was actually one point with my when I was holding my hand there, where you slipped and it touched the glove oh like. I was like that was a little close and then ten seconds later is when it's seared through.
Speaker 2:You're the ones talking about killing toddlers. Yes, hypothetically.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's not put that out there it was a thought experiment actually. He was talking about robot that were designed yeah, they were trained with one two year olds frame with one purpose to kill you, to kill wait till nap time and those inefficient soldiers.
Speaker 2:Could you imagine if, like Terminator, instead of Arnold, it's a drop do-do-do-do-do-do I like? I see them with boss, baby boss baby.
Speaker 3:There's a show in the 90s called like baby geniuses.
Speaker 2:I remember that look who's talking.
Speaker 1:Now look who's talking out to well, where could people find us?
Speaker 3:I would. A weird way to end, man we this is just a wild night. This was a weird podcast hey, we started late.
Speaker 1:Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 2:Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 1:Rings of power language you watch?
Speaker 2:it invincible.
Speaker 1:The gom wait you did the chat watch rings of power. I know that you did. What was your thoughts out of ten. Seven out of ten. Nine out ten. Ten out ten quick.
Speaker 3:We're ending the. We're ending the episode right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, five seconds five stream delay and you just out type faster, type, type, type and send. Now we gotta wait six out of ten.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh what did you give it number? I don't know. I don't ever.
Speaker 1:I would say nine or ten on ten. I thought from a production standpoint, from a production value standpoint, there is never, I've never watched anything like it. It is unbelievable. It's like what they? They spent a billion dollars on this series, I think, for through five seasons it's fully funded. So this one season had at least 200 million dollars spent on it. It showed it, 100 showed and your money is showing.
Speaker 3:What your money is showing is what your money, specifically my money showing. Yeah, I don't know if I don't feel I don't feel too excited to watch it, but I'll watch it if Dylan watches it practical effects, and they barely use them.
Speaker 1:My god, your match made in heaven. I swear to god.
Speaker 3:I uh, I've yet to have a single thing I've disagreed with with this jingle be practical effects are awesome.
Speaker 1:It's what made Lord of the original Lord of the Rings so incredible.
Speaker 3:That's real people in real makeup, in real costumes and real miniatures that's a real eye it took it out somebody's head and they put it on the top of the tower um, but I feel like I don't know how.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm gonna say something probably pretty controversial. Oh boy, I think practical effects should be left for film, not tv series, and the reason being is I feel like if you have, a 200 million dollar budget sure.
Speaker 3:Jack, that's one, because you could do the animation for like five seasons yeah, one billion for five
Speaker 1:yeah, um, I think that. I think that's it. It's like how? Yeah, I don't remember what the number is off top of my head, but I feel like, um, it should be left for film because it's in it's. It's a one-off, it's like a director's passion project. They can make things look really cool, seamless, and it's in it, it shows on the screen. But for, like, a tv series, I don't know how you could do that repeatedly for, like something that's going to have hours upon hours of screen time, and I feel like you could do it better. If you can really design an animated asset and do a really high quality job where it doesn't take you out of it, I think it makes, it makes sense to do it, and they did that with they show. Uh, uh. Numenor, I believe, is the town um, where Aragorn's from, way before it was time, though, and, uh, it's all cj, I would.
Speaker 2:The argument I would make to that, though, billy is rings of power or it isn't your average tv show. You know, it's like it was almost made like a movie, I'm sure.
Speaker 3:I think that's a that's a lovely thought, all right. That's not exactly attainable for your average joe tv show fuck, no, yeah, that's what, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:If you, if you have the budget or you have the ability, about firefly fireflies fucking awesome most of it is practical, like, except for the ship flying around, but I also came out in like 99 or something like that.
Speaker 1:When the fuck did it come out 2000?
Speaker 2:2004 three three when the fuck yeah, yeah, but like the sets are practical, the guns, everything is practical those are real people those are real people. Can you believe it?
Speaker 1:river song is real and then they show, yeah, getting ready to blast off anyway. 2002 firefly damn so they're usually pretty good about that.
Speaker 3:I was off by a year.
Speaker 1:That showed up get better, I'll try. Get better, I'll try. I don't know, man, I am a sucker for that lore, that world.
Speaker 2:So just the world is what made it so high 100?
Speaker 1:because it got more of what you like. I am a sim for elves anything else? And then you add in that, like the setting of Lord of the Rings, and there's this you know I won't spoil anything, it's so good. There's this guy. You don't really know what he is, but you think you know what he is. And then last episode comes out and you're like fucking, do it, tell him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, because it, you kind of guessed oh good she. They love the casting for gladrile and elrond oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Gladrile got a lot of shit for her portrayal. I thought it made total sense when you contextualize it with where her character is that she's still like a kid for elf years. How old is she in the rings power? She's probably almost a thousand years old at that point, or maybe she definitely a few hundred years old. She was like a leader.
Speaker 2:She's like liara you know best waifu of mass spec second best, so wrong no best best girl.
Speaker 1:It's all about telling chat.
Speaker 2:What do you think I'm all about the what's they're gonna go against me.
Speaker 3:I'm all about the asexual do they even play mass facts yeah, absolutely does. Does victory uh, she has seen me play it victory.
Speaker 2:Do you have a preference in massfect romance option?
Speaker 3:please tell me it's liara whatever.
Speaker 2:I need backup it's definitely tally they, and it's like you know the thing is is I try not even like 3000 in the show really 3000 ish is it we're so it's a second age so wrong.
Speaker 3:So this is at the beginning guys are.
Speaker 2:I thought you were lord of the rings fans. But you know, and it's like I, whenever they bring it up, eventually I get to the point where I'm like, yeah, that's your guys's opinion, and then they don't take it. They're like no, you're just fucking wrong. And I try and take the high ground and they just refuse it's over I have the high ground. I say you know, liara is best girl and liara is, she's the canon jingle beast. You got my back at least.
Speaker 1:Jesus Christ, she's 3422 years old during the show. See, this is what. This is why I thought she was like a thousand years old, because it's during the beginning of the second age. Thank you, which is your 15?
Speaker 3:oh, what a surprise.
Speaker 1:I have support oh wow, didn't see that one coming, weird oh liara.
Speaker 2:Hmm, I'll say it like I say every time it's 3v2 you know what, though? Get ronna. I count, I count by where is on my side. You know what? Who's in the new trailer? Not tally, who fucked up andromeda? Who had their whole deal.
Speaker 1:I mean the whole.
Speaker 3:DLC where she just bitched and shadow broke the whole time.
Speaker 2:Who brought shepherds body to Cerberus?
Speaker 3:yeah, uh, no fair on did liara did no her influence.
Speaker 1:Wait jingobie says she prefers tally, but liara is bae. What does that mean?
Speaker 2:I don't know what that means liara is endgame, so maybe they, they go. What is what?
Speaker 1:is liara better at in any way other than like same size of goddess, yeah that's what she's better.
Speaker 2:Tally is a fucking unit you're just better at being your equal you know what I think?
Speaker 3:you're judging her because you don't know what she looks like no.
Speaker 4:I we are a dozen. You're like it's too much of a gamble. She might be ugly.
Speaker 3:That's what you're thinking you're a terrible person.
Speaker 2:I tally, I do like tally and I it breaks my heart to like turn her down she's an adult, all right when you meet her in mass spec'd once she is underage. No, yes, she's on her pilgrimage.
Speaker 3:You don't start your pilgrimage until you're 18 in human. The human equivalent is 18. She's a fucking admiral in mass spec 3.
Speaker 2:You can't be an admiral and be a child. Liara is like a couple hundred, or she's a hundred or something like 400. She's a hundred nine.
Speaker 3:She's barely a fucking adult. They don't be in her, in her timeline. She's a child too. So maybe shepherds, just shepherds no, I I do.
Speaker 2:I like tally's romance, but I and it always it hurts to like turn down tally because she's one of the few people who actually like she was there always there for you the whole time.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say she's the one that comes on to you like just by talking to her she tries to hit on you and you have to like she's so, like she's like.
Speaker 3:Well, I've never trusted anybody that much. Well, at least not, yeah, anyone else or whatever like stands at you or whatever, and you have to be like sorry, tally.
Speaker 2:I don't feel like I hate that.
Speaker 3:I, I'm like tally no the only character that straight up dies if you break up with them is Miranda if you romance, miranda, you never wasted my time if you romance Miranda and then break up with her mess factor II, then she automatically dies by Kyla and there's nothing you could do about it. That's how important your relationship with her is she's also the only character that cries if you break up with them.
Speaker 2:I. I do have to say, though, second place I, while I do like tally, second place for me is Samara that's not even a romance in the Citadel DLC all they do is kiss I do. I like their friendship and relationship in the.
Speaker 3:Citadel DC, where you just hang out at a party yeah, you kiss her if you don't romance anyone in Mass Effect one, two or three, and you pursue a romance in Mass Effect two of Samara and you get to the point where she, like, is tempted to do something with you and she has to use biotics to push you off and say, no, I can't because of my code. And then you're kind of like, all right, I guess I'll just go back to my room now.
Speaker 3:Um, then you can follow up in Mass Effect three, in the Citadel DLC and actually finally get your kiss with her, and then she like says like you know, I can't promise that my answer will be different, but just hold me now and you like that more than tally.
Speaker 2:I'm just you, should you should go. Well, you won't play through it, but I'm just saying, if you play through the story, it's actually very sweet she clearly it's not like a, it's not like a rapey thing like she clearly likes you back to yeah it's not like you're like forcing yourself onto her, you know out of all, at least in my opinion, out of all the relationships she feels, the one that is the most like on shepherd's level of like she gets what?
Speaker 3:he's going through and she's a um, she's a matriarch, so that means that she'll she'll die around the same time as you. Yeah, she's already like 900 something years old, unlike Leara, who inevitably will move on because she's obviously not in the trailer.
Speaker 1:Another, another 900 years not fucking alive. What if he is dude?
Speaker 2:I don't want shepherd to be alive me neither. But what if he is?
Speaker 1:from a fem chef perspective, it feels a little different with the aria that is true, okay, whenever I've played as a fem chef.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I have romance. Leara, she's my number one. Um, she's your number one. She's my number one as a fem chef. Garrus is a close second. I really like the garrus romance a lot, but I also like the thane romance for the tragics of it, because there's nothing you do. Thane dies, obviously any. Yeah, yeah, actually, I think I like garrus the most as a fem chef. I like bend over shepherd. He doesn't, he never once said that, but okay.
Speaker 3:I have played through way more as a male chef than a fem chef, which is um they, it does. It does change the story on like a fundamental level as far as like how? Because Jennifer Hale is. She's a much better voice actress like a voice actor than, uh, mark miras, but like I'm so ingrained in my head, that shepherd is mark mir, yeah so that it always takes me a little bit to um get into it a little bit, but but the garrus romance is actually pretty good well mark people for this romance.
Speaker 2:You can romance morden.
Speaker 3:No, I was gonna say morden doesn't care about that kind of shit, rex romance, is that possible?
Speaker 3:no, joking, you can't romance any krogans. One of the sweetest uh side romance arcs is actually between a krogan and anasari yeah, they're rose yeah, they're on thesia at first and she's like, she's like in love with them, but she like tries to break over them because you know whatever isn't it because he's not in or he's, is he too in touch with his emotions are not enough like I think he's too in touch, yeah, and then he's like a krogan yeah he's like different and then so like he, if you drop in on them enough, you find like, and she's like I think that he only likes me because, um, he knows he can have a kid with me but it's not like biologically his.
Speaker 3:I don't think he understands that. And then, like, you can talk to them again and convince them to get together. And then he's like I don't care what our children look like, it has nothing to do with my love for you, kind of thing. It's actually a very sweet romance. And then you find out that that krogan dies the mass spec 3 on the front lines, because all the krogan are used as basically just tanks to fight right up there on the the front lines.
Speaker 2:I do find it funny in in any of the mass spec games how shepherd just walks up to people having a conversation just listen, yeah, and he's like. I'm gonna offer my opinion and it's like who the fuck asked? He's always doing that like there's in mass spec one. There's a conversation between I remember they're like two.
Speaker 3:I feel like my back is like completely.
Speaker 2:I'm getting so ingrained in the conversation that I'm like completely there's like two red heads and they're trying to decide where, like the um, like if it's about a baby, like if the the girl should have the dead husband's baby or something like that, and I remember it's like shepherd should not be involved in this conversation at all, but he's like here's what I think you know, I think she's right, you should listen to her. It's like what the fuck?
Speaker 3:who was that house commander shepherd the first human specter.
Speaker 2:He just gave us his opinion.
Speaker 3:Wow, all right, I guess we should end it then, huh yeah, we'll end it.
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