The KD Ratio!

From Phantom Liberty to Classic Kung Fu: A Celebration of Gaming, Nostalgia, and Pop Culture

October 08, 2023 The KD Ratio! Season 3
From Phantom Liberty to Classic Kung Fu: A Celebration of Gaming, Nostalgia, and Pop Culture
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From Phantom Liberty to Classic Kung Fu: A Celebration of Gaming, Nostalgia, and Pop Culture
Oct 08, 2023 Season 3
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Ever wondered what it feels like to traverse through the universe of games like Phantom Liberty and Cyberpunk 2077? Buckle up as we embark on a fantastic journey, delving deep into the storyline, characters, and the latest updates of these games. We discuss the finer aspects of gaming mechanics - exploring the revamp of Phantom Liberty in its 2.0 version, as well as how the recent updates of Cyberpunk 2077 restored our faith in the game.

Did you grow up in the 80s and 90s, obsessed with kung fu movies like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Jet Li's Fearless and Forbidden Kingdom? Prepare to take an enjoyable trip down memory lane as we rekindle those fond memories. We discuss our favorite kung fu films, the cultural impact they made, and the lessons we drew from them. We also share about our memorable movie experiences, from the light-hearted The Goonies to the action-packed X-Men trilogy, extending to films like Ugly Betty, The Outsiders, and Blade Runner.

From acknowledging our fears to embracing our fandoms, we wear our hearts on our sleeves in this podcast episode. We share our experiences with fear, discussing how it has shaped our lives and decisions. We also bring to light our love for the pop culture icons of the 80s and 90s, like the unforgettable Karate Kid Ralph Machio and the evergreen Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. We hope to connect with fellow enthusiasts, igniting discussions about our shared interests and experiences. Join us in this celebration of nostalgia, gaming, and the beautiful complexity of pop culture.

If you enjoy our episode's content, come check us out on twitter @KDratiopodcast, YouTube as The KD Ratio Podcast! or on Instagram KDratiopodcast



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We pulled this episode directly from our livestream. Come check us out on YouTube!

This description was written by an A.I.

Ever wondered what it feels like to traverse through the universe of games like Phantom Liberty and Cyberpunk 2077? Buckle up as we embark on a fantastic journey, delving deep into the storyline, characters, and the latest updates of these games. We discuss the finer aspects of gaming mechanics - exploring the revamp of Phantom Liberty in its 2.0 version, as well as how the recent updates of Cyberpunk 2077 restored our faith in the game.

Did you grow up in the 80s and 90s, obsessed with kung fu movies like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Jet Li's Fearless and Forbidden Kingdom? Prepare to take an enjoyable trip down memory lane as we rekindle those fond memories. We discuss our favorite kung fu films, the cultural impact they made, and the lessons we drew from them. We also share about our memorable movie experiences, from the light-hearted The Goonies to the action-packed X-Men trilogy, extending to films like Ugly Betty, The Outsiders, and Blade Runner.

From acknowledging our fears to embracing our fandoms, we wear our hearts on our sleeves in this podcast episode. We share our experiences with fear, discussing how it has shaped our lives and decisions. We also bring to light our love for the pop culture icons of the 80s and 90s, like the unforgettable Karate Kid Ralph Machio and the evergreen Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. We hope to connect with fellow enthusiasts, igniting discussions about our shared interests and experiences. Join us in this celebration of nostalgia, gaming, and the beautiful complexity of pop culture.

If you enjoy our episode's content, come check us out on twitter @KDratiopodcast, YouTube as The KD Ratio Podcast! or on Instagram KDratiopodcast



Speaker 1:

Go get a coke in the middle of the stream, but I was like these. Dylan by himself. Hey guys, we're gonna be reacting to some videos. You're just using your phone, are we in all? Right good thing I didn't say anything too crazy we are live.

Speaker 3:

Are you watching?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, am I?

Speaker 3:

Hello, welcome to the Katie ratio podcast. I Very tempted that I think we should just sit here silence until we have viewers.

Speaker 1:

That sounds like a terrible idea because I don't want to be in just your company like that.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I guess we're doing oh, oh, it went up to three. Oh okay. Well, welcome to the Katie ratio podcast, your place for all things nerd tonight.

Speaker 1:

Billy is gone, yeah, and so we broke actually yeah, so he's not in the podcast anymore, but we still use his studio that we built together. Broke him well he's here. Yeah, in the other room. We just told him we can't, can't be part of the can't be part of it anymore. No, so he'll have to figure that out hopefully soon you know he's not here, he's not joining us tonight. So if you join, for just him.

Speaker 3:

I'm sorry it's gonna be let down. We lost one viewer from that speech. Oh yeah, it was the.

Speaker 1:

It was the the one person that came for Billy.

Speaker 3:

The only way. Well, what are we gonna talk about tonight, kyle?

Speaker 1:

We're finally gonna talk about Phantom Liberty. It's been out for what a week.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

We can.

Speaker 3:

September, september something, so we both had a chance to play. You beat it, I did, I did not.

Speaker 1:

Yet and it was really good, really good. So why don't we talk about 2.0?

Speaker 3:

First, and lead into and lead into Phantom Liberty.

Speaker 1:

So what are your thoughts on 2.0?

Speaker 3:

I really like 2.0. Um, I'm like you, like I Knew there were issues with the game, but I still. I still had a ton of fun with it. I mean, this would be my Haven't played through it as many times as you, but this would be my third playthrough and I just 2.0 feels so good and I mean the old game didn't feel bad, but I see what the direction they were going for in 2.0 and it feels a lot more refined, like the, the build path, the progression system. It feels really nice because I felt like in at least I don't know you'll have to say if you felt this in before 2.0 it felt like you could get OP Really fast. Yeah, as long as you knew the skills to get this. It feels like a nice progression. I don't feel like I'm struggling, but I don't feel like I have a pay-to-win button.

Speaker 1:

It feels a little bit more like an RPG, whereas you, you know, you level up and you get better and then you become like a lower accurate V. But yeah, before 2.0 came out, there was like a Few things that you could spec into and get, and then you didn't really really have to worry about anything else.

Speaker 3:

It's like it was good for your build because, like before, I would use mono wire and they had mono wire attached to blades Previously mm-hmm now it's not mm-hmm, which makes sense, because mono wire is not a blade. Yeah, but it scaled so good off of blades like you could fuck people up.

Speaker 1:

But now.

Speaker 3:

I have to use Mantis blade. You know I've never used the mono wire.

Speaker 1:

It was so it was good.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I'm not. If you're gonna be a netrunner, it's probably still good. It looks weird, it me. I felt like Lucy from the anime.

Speaker 1:

I've always I did a Mantis blade run, I usually do Katana, but also sometimes I'll do like all handguns.

Speaker 3:

I love the handguns.

Speaker 1:

I love especially the Maureen Johnny's and I also like the like, the Like. What is it crash? The big, like a six shooter, like hand cannon, one which one's that I think River gives it to you.

Speaker 3:

Oh okay, have you ever found? I still, to this day, haven't found it. There's a sing sing. There's a single shot revolver that does like insane amount of damage. Single shot and it's a. It's an epic or it's like a legendary or whatever. The rare version is called Single shot revolver cyberpunk.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I've to this day, I haven't found it but.

Speaker 3:

I've only read about it online. I would love to try it. Oh, archangel, is that what it's?

Speaker 1:

called no archangels, no single shot. I've done. I've had archangels. The six shooter, headhunter no, I guess I've never found it. This doesn't ring any bells to me, but I also never look things up. I just play through it just and get what you get, get what I get, and I don't throw a fit. I'm like you, I throw a fit all the time.

Speaker 3:

Just because I want, I want it, I can't get it. It's unplayable if I don't have my one shot, one kill. I need a hundred percent of everything.

Speaker 1:

I.

Speaker 3:

Need a hundred percent of everything.

Speaker 1:

I have never a hundred percent any game of my life, even the ones that I have like an insane amount of hours in. I have.

Speaker 3:

But I would add to that that it's only when the game itself has been like so fun and easy to 100% like spider-man. I'm not proud that I hundred percent in it because I know it's easy. Yeah, but I did it because I had fun.

Speaker 1:

I did take that back. I have one. I have hundred percent of one game in my life. Which one? It's weird. It's a weird one Assassin's Creed Brotherhood.

Speaker 3:

I thought you're gonna say like Doritos Crash, doritos Crash Course, or Burger King.

Speaker 1:

From Cartoon Networkcom.

Speaker 3:

I hundred percent. It was the kids next door game Code name kids next door and you got all the achievements.

Speaker 1:

huh Yep, it was it was not easy, let me tell you, no assassin's Creed Brotherhood, I 100% of it. I don't know why. I was like maybe 15 when that game came out and I just played this shit out of it.

Speaker 3:

Well, and I feel like single-player games, at least, are a lot easier. To 100%, yeah, because most of the stuff, most of the achievements, are tied to either collectibles or missions, not the gameplay in Assassin's Creed now is not even like that.

Speaker 1:

I could never go back and play that and ever be that committed to an Assassin's Creed game. Yeah, especially like I bought the like the Ezio collection when it came out and I remember thinking when I was playing it was like I feel like this used to be more fun, like it wasn't it. Maybe just because, like I don't know, my tastes have changed over the years, but like, same thing, sadly, the same thing with the Arkham. So really, well. Arkham Asylum.

Speaker 3:

I would back to play huh and it.

Speaker 1:

It didn't feel that I mean it didn't, it didn't grab me.

Speaker 3:

And I was like I remember loving this game. What happened, I think, with that one in specific Arkham? It's because so many games have iterated and made that that style like that better and so that's probably why it's like Because, like you play spider-man and you're so fast, yeah, and I mean even Arkham Knight compared to Arkham asylum you're zooming around, yeah, batman flies somehow to the enemies to break their arm to bring it back to cyberpunk.

Speaker 1:

There's maybe thing of this, because the Was it the javelina Quadra? Like the, it's the, like the nomad vehicle, uh-huh. They've added vehicle combat and that vehicle now is just straight up like the batmobile, like it's got guns that come out on the side and you can like power, drift and shoot people in it and shit.

Speaker 3:

Holy cow. It's like this is officially the coolest vehicle in the game, though I love the javelina, that was one I would always buy. Um, I've been saving up for the kusanagi. I just they care about upped it in price that was like 60,000.

Speaker 1:

It's so easy to get money in Phantom Liberty, though now, like you, just sell a couple gigs, do a couple gigs or even just pick up weapons and sell them. You can get like a hundred thousand from one yeah for one drop off. So money's not a problem anymore.

Speaker 3:

For good old z. Too bad, it doesn't save him, but we'll move on from now from 2.0 to fandom liberty. What are your thoughts on fandom liberty?

Speaker 1:

Kyle as the person it was good man, it was really good. Uh, I okay, so I'm one of the people are like saying this takes the storytelling of cyberpunk and brings it to new echelon. Um but I actually, I really like the story of cyberpunk. Um, so I didn't look at it like that, but I do love the tone change. So fandom liberty is much more. Spy thriller, uh, a little less. Um, I don't even know what, what genre, would you say? The like, the base game is, um, just action shooter, action shooter, cyberpunk, wow.

Speaker 1:

But this one is like full-on cyberpunk james bond. Like it has like Very much that feel to it. Um, you get recruited by the fia, uh, it turns into this whole web of like political machinations and, uh, you end up having to save people. You do this whole thing where, like, you go in like as, like you do like these like um infiltration missions, where you're going into like casinos you like have to pose as other people and like pretend that you're someone else and, um, very secret agent, very secret agent, esk.

Speaker 1:

Uh, without I'm not gonna give away any spoilers but like there's cyberware that like you have to use to make you look like somebody else and it's like it look. It's like, basically, if james bond was in this universe, this would be the story.

Speaker 3:

That's cool.

Speaker 1:

It's. It even has like a james bond song that they released a video on their channel like a music video that like it has the whole slow motion, like effects and like Random chicks dancing, and like I'm like, oh my god, this is straight up james bond, but it's um next to none storytelling. Wise Keanu Reeves really stepped it up. I feel like, oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

I was acting is, um, really really good in this. Uh, and I don't know if it's because he's more comfortable with the role of johnny now, so he kind of like he's starting to feel more like johnny, but it's, it's even better in this than it is in the, the base game like he's like he really stepped it up for sure. I don't think there's any weak players, though, either. I think all the voice acting is really good. I know that so far you haven't been a huge fan of reed.

Speaker 3:

I do think read is played by idris elba and I think idris elba, at least so far, the the line delivery has felt a little. It's not on keanu reeves level, for sure it's not bad, which is like the opposite of what most people would say. I know keanu reeves killing it, though Most people are like keanu reeves is really flat.

Speaker 1:

That's what they always say about his movies. I know and I love his movies. I know and I love his movies. So maybe that's just uh, but have you ever heard him interview and talk? Keanu reeves, that's just kind of how he talks.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's like who he is. Fuck, no, fuck. His line delivery um in the base game sometimes gets a little like he's very edgelord, very he's like the definition. Um, so I would say if you, if you liked cyberpunk at all and you haven't played in a while, phantom liberty is an absolute must. Buy for sure. That intro is so good.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I, I would also add on to kyle, I would say it's a must, buy I. So I'm only a couple hours in, um, I haven't beat it yet, but I really am enjoying it. And just more cyberpunk content. Sign me up because I I'm ready for cyberpunk 2.

Speaker 1:

It's a free real estate, free real estate I, I am too, but sadly, I mean we're probably done with v.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, for cyberpunk 2. So so we're gonna have a new character and v's become and johnny.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and johnny, there'll be no v, and johnny, because no matter which way you slice it, it's pretty definitive. But I don't know this?

Speaker 3:

did this restore See, I never lost faith in in cd projector, but did this restore your faith that they can write a good game? I never have lost faith?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm. If anyone that has had any amount of listening to our podcast over the last two years, um, I have been a like violent defender of the cyberpunk 2077. Um, I fought through it all. I played it from the beginning. There's only one period where I didn't play it and it was like the first couple of weeks after it was a crash Because I couldn't, because it was crash. But then after that I was all in and, uh, I never lost faith as a, as in the project writer.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and there's storytelling abilities. Project writer, um. So, if anything, I think, uh, this I'm just happy that this seems to have been what finally has restored faith for everyone else.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and it seems. I don't know. Have you seen any like the? Have they released any of the numbers At all? About sales, I haven't even looked at that, to be honest. Let's, let's see if it's doing good. Cyberpunk 2077 popularity spikes with update 2.0.

Speaker 1:

I mean, the concurrent player count went up to about 250,000.

Speaker 3:

Wow, that's the highest since december 2020, so Seems like it did work.

Speaker 1:

If you've never played cyberpunk because you've been Afraid of you know all the negative press at god and the terrible state that it launched in um. Now would be the time. They completely overhauled everything pretty much, and it feels like a new game it does.

Speaker 3:

Playing through it. I mean, you get to um, it's probably about oh, I've been taking my time with the game, but I would say I got access to Phantom Liberty probably about 18 hours in. 18 hours in, yeah, you could do it a lot faster, but I I was doing gigs and stuff.

Speaker 1:

So I mean, so is it right after the the voodoo boy mission? Yeah, right after the voodoo boys, okay. So that, yeah, depends on how you approach it. If, like, if you're playing the female V and you want to bum rush that Judy romance, then you might get it really quick. Yeah. Or if you're playing as a male V and you want to do all pan Am stuff first and it might be a while, you while before you get to it.

Speaker 3:

But it tells you right off the bat pretty much as soon as you do a couple missions. It's like for Phantom Liberty proceed, figure out more about Evelyn.

Speaker 1:

Okay, all right, I'll go do that Little do you know? Rest in peace. No way to save Evelyn no game came out two years ago, though, so if you don't know that, that's that's not.

Speaker 3:

It's your fault.

Speaker 1:

That's your. She's a minor character. Really think about it in the long, long run, but I will. She's a critical character, but she's not really in the game.

Speaker 3:

Oh, it is funny to think, though, like how the reason she set up that mission was for the voodoo boys.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, they contracted her, but not contracted contact, yeah, and then she was like cut them out and it's like what were you gonna do with the Make a bunch of money? Flee with Judy somewhere. She didn't think things through. She also tried to get you to cut out Dexter to Sean She'd. I don't think she probably would have cut you out too, she's people she could have killed you.

Speaker 1:

Most likely you'd be like here you go. Oh, that wouldn't be surprising for cyberpunk world. There are no happy endings in cyberpunk, and that is solidified More than ever in Phantom Liberty.

Speaker 3:

I do have to say I Like one thing I like about two more 2.0 in Phantom Liberty is it feels a lot more cohesive with the anime. Like Before. It felt like the game in the anime were almost like two separate worlds because of, like the cyberware. Like you know, v didn't never went to cyber cycle, he didn't have to worry, you could just slot up. But now you do have to worry about it and just like kind of how I don't know, I got more of the vibe that it felt more like one connected world.

Speaker 3:

Yeah then before it was like the game and then the anime.

Speaker 1:

I Could see that. Yeah, I think so too, and I also, in a weird way, I feel like I'm 2.0. I don't know, I don't know if they did anything to like the dialogue or I think they did, but like, everything feels like better in a weird way, like and I don't know if it's like because it looks better and plays smoother, so it allows you to appreciate like dialogue and stuff more, whereas before, like there was bugs going on.

Speaker 1:

Like I don't know if it's like the sound quality was just increased because there's no way they just Rerecorded all of that now, because I know the lines are all pretty much the same.

Speaker 3:

I have heard a few new ones, but all of them are pretty much the same. Yeah, from my memory, like Johnny doesn't? He does have a couple new lines.

Speaker 1:

No, I mean, it's remarkably unbuggy at this point, especially when compared to like Other RPGs out there. There was one bug in Phantom Liberty that was annoying, but it didn't change my, didn't change anything for me. The one that was annoying was there's one character that's when talking to them, it's new dialogue specifically for Phantom Liberty. And when you talk to this character, even if you're in person with them, it's the, it's the audio, as if you're talking to them on the phone. Oh, so it's kind of immersion breaking. But that's the only one I encountered, so I did.

Speaker 3:

I was reading the other night that there is what do you play it on PS5? I heard there is like a game breaking Bug on PS5.

Speaker 1:

Hmm, I haven't encountered it.

Speaker 3:

So that's good, though, that you haven't encountered that one.

Speaker 1:

But, Some people, according to Reddit, some people are Are bugging out. Yeah, but no, I didn't experience any of that.

Speaker 3:

I've been. The only thing I've had is it's not even a bug. It's like I get this weird flash when I'm like driving too fast and it's like popping in Areas. It's like everything goes a little bit brighter for a sec.

Speaker 1:

Like coming out of like, if it's changing from like a shaded area to a light area just driving.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, weird, I don't know. I want to try and do like the cross platform and save it on my PS5, see what the difference see if it changes at all, because I'm playing it on the Xbox.

Speaker 1:

I don't even know if my PC could run that. I mean it could, but not at the level I'd want it to Like, if you see, like how good it looks. So I'm like I've just jacked up PC.

Speaker 3:

Can you imagine Cyberpunk 2 with Unreal Engine? It's gonna be good man.

Speaker 1:

It's gonna look good. So, yeah, I think this, this should restore a Lot of faith in CD project red. I still think that it's gonna be a while before people could just blindly trust them again. Yeah, unfortunately, and that is what it is, but I'm I'm full fanboy, and so this didn't do anything except make me like them even more. Super good.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. So if you're cyberpunk fan, go check it out and if you're not a cyberpunk fan go check it out, fuck off, wow, wow.

Speaker 1:

We don't want you to play. If you weren't there at our worst, you don't deserve us at our best set CG project red.

Speaker 3:

They're just gonna bang.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they're just, they just don't want sales.

Speaker 3:

People like unless you played the original backup backup.

Speaker 1:

I Highly doubt they would ever say that.

Speaker 3:

No, they want people to play they wanted you to play and enjoy it, and I. It seems like they're a company that's very passionate about the game they make.

Speaker 1:

Now they had issues with they kept everybody yeah during all this and everybody just hunkered down, fix the game, like, if this kind of thing, if I mean, let's be real here, if, if this was Bioware, they would have abandoned the project a long ass time ago. Looking anthem and andromeda, andromeda both games are Unfinished to this day because they launched poorly and they were like let's move on, fuck it.

Speaker 3:

Well, the thing too, that that always Is Confuses me is like in my opinion, andromeda was in a better state like gameplay wise or not gameplay, but like Bug wise. Then cyberpunk.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and they come. For me it was never the bugs. Yeah, the story is just boring. My eyes are so tired. I Actually went back and beat andromeda finally so boring. I beat it and I actually had some fun with it, but it's just not on the same level. Not one, two or three. It's. The story is kind of like okay, like all right, these cat are turning other people into cat.

Speaker 3:

Oh no, seen that before yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's not even scary either. They like it's not indoctrination, they're not turning you know biterians into cannibals, like it's just cat, more cat. So yeah, I Commend CD project red for just not giving up and doing it and going out there and releasing a good-ass game Finally and we're having a lot of fun playing it, but on shame it took that long.

Speaker 3:

It is, you know, they should have just never announced.

Speaker 1:

They released it and just waited they should have stuck with their original.

Speaker 3:

It's coming out when it's ready.

Speaker 1:

I do remember there was a lot of people, though, like every time we get delayed, people like what the fuck? Like, just fucking release it. And we were kind of that too, because for a while, members getting delayed all the time. Well, that's because they finally put a date, but that's what they shouldn't have done.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they shouldn't have put a date. They should have just continued like you said. They should just continued coming when it's ready and then they wouldn't have felt the pressure to release. I'm sure they're on the corporate side of things. Shareholders might have been pressuring them, come on like where is this? But ultimately they took more damage from releasing an unfinished game. Then they would have if they just delayed another couple years came out 2020.

Speaker 3:

I know, two years ago, wow, I don't think this one's right, though. 15th February 2022 is when it came out on the PS5 and Xbox.

Speaker 1:

That's because they made the like you could play it on PS5.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that's right. And then they made, like the next gen version of it. I got you. Well, moving on to our next game, kyle, yes, mortal combat. I have not you have combat.

Speaker 1:

It's fucking good, man, fucking good. I can go. This is the best Mortal Kombat. This is my favorite since man MK9 I really liked MK9, but the story, visuals, the gameplay like this is Mortal Kombat at its best, oh for sure.

Speaker 1:

A few things I really like about it is they have the freedom to really shake up the universe in the world, because Liu Kang became at the end of MK11, became like the Keeper of time, not even like new Raiden, like literally like a more powerful than a god, like he became like the keeper of time and he crafted this universe over like the course of like a millennia or whatever, and then he stepped down from his role and he became just fire god, liu Kang, which is like a demigod. Before that he was much more powerful and this universe that he created he's like the new Raiden, he's sort of the Guiding earth realm to. You know, be the so they don't lose to outworld and all that and it's, it's really good. There are parts where you're like you were like that powerful and yet somehow Everything is happening the same as it's always happened, you know but I did, you but whatever.

Speaker 1:

But do like that. It gives you, it gives them the freedom to Like, change the story, like with expectations play with expectations, like I mean, I'll just. The game's been out a while, so spoiler alerts, they like. Changed whole origins, like Sub-zero and scorpion are like brothers now. Oh.

Speaker 1:

And they're both from the same like ninja clan and then it like it, so that that changes that whole dynamic. Raiden and Kung Lao are now the ones that were like raised together by the monks instead of Liu Kang and Kung Lao, and Raiden is like the Sort of the champion that everyone's Putting their hopes and dreams on, like they did Liu Kang Like Johnny, kenchi and Kung Lao and Raiden are like the new protectors of earth realm. Johnny still Johnny is kind of a douchebag, but like he's got a good heart. Kenchi they finally kind of explain, at least in this version of him, how he loses eyesight and how he Comes into contact with with Johnny and all that. Like Melina is no longer a clone of Katana, she's like Katana's like actual sister, oh wow, and she's actually the eldest sister, which means she's in line for the throne.

Speaker 1:

Sindel has no like Romance with Shao Kahn. She's just like the ruler of our world and she's like good and like it's this whole thing. And even Melina like she has this, like this disease that's turning her like into Tarkotten, but she's not like evil and this and she she even like his like, becomes like the leader of our world, so like they just do stuff like that, and it's this whole multiverse thing, because that's everything, though, but my favorite part about moral combat, lisa's story, is in the final battle. It's Armageddon again, where you They've done this a bunch of times where, like it's that famous Armageddon battle in that pyramid in the desert or whatever, they now allow you to choose who your character is in the final Armageddon fight, and so basically any character that you like, you can make them the hero of the story.

Speaker 1:

So, like, like you can have like strapped, like Baraka being the one that like yeah, or like you could even do, like a Shang Tsung, because it's like a multiverse thing. So, like Liu Kang, like fire god Liu Kang, he basically goes out and he recruits all of the good versions of every character.

Speaker 1:

Oh and they fight like all of the bad versions of every character and things get crazy. They got like all these like morphed characters that you're fighting like you're fighting like half Sonya, half Kano hybrid thing. Like there's there was a Johnny Cage Shao Khan Like character and like they even named them funny things like so the Johnny Cage Shao Khan it was, it was John Connor, john Connor, like so just stuff like that. Or like there's a, I thought, a Liu Kang that was like a Johnny Cage Liu Kang and so it's like Liu Kang's voice actor, but he's like an actor, but he's like a Johnny Cage douchebag version of Liu Kang and like so like the timelines get fucking crazy and weird and it's it's literally like you know, like into the spider-verse, it's like that, but like Mortal Kombat version of it multiverses everything now yeah but the yeah, the final fight.

Speaker 1:

Even Liu Kang's like no matter who you pick, they're like they call me the chosen one, because you just fuck, fuck people up Whoever you choose. Another thing I really like is Shang Tsung is the bad guy and he just stays the bad guy. There's no like he's the bad guy all the way up to the very end and he's like basically like an evil version of Liu Kang. It's like you got like the good time Lord versus the bad, one kind of thing. It's like doctor who yeah, like it, it gets wild for sure. And then also gameplay it's it's, you know, it's Mortal Kombat. It's like refined it. If you've played Mortal Kombat 11, it plays very similar to more Mortal Kombat 11, but Nothing to complain about there.

Speaker 3:

How are like the unlockables and stuff? I?

Speaker 1:

Haven't? I mean, I literally just went through like the story Uh-huh and that's like kind of it, because I've been playing Phantom Liberia.

Speaker 3:

They're like a crypt, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they have, like they have all that same kind of stuff they have like arcade modes and all that and the towers. Yeah, which I never really did the crypt on Any other Mortal Kombat, because it was always like boring artwork. He are like, oh cool, I could just look this up online. All right, thanks, I'm weird. I play Mortal Kombat for the story.

Speaker 3:

Hey, it has a good story Especially, and then you just got to be the tower with each character and you get their individual story, and that's one thing.

Speaker 1:

Also, like this canonizes all the tower endings. Oh For, like all the characters. Yeah, because, because, why not? It's all multiverse shit anyways. So everything's canon everything riders must love the multiverse. It just allows them to do whatever they want.

Speaker 3:

Seems like it especially with how much stuff has become multiversal.

Speaker 1:

I'm ready to move on though. You're ready to move on as much as I as much as I love Of what we've gotten, I'm getting a little multiverse fatigued it does.

Speaker 3:

But see, I wonder, is that just because of how it's handled, like it hasn't been handled well? Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean it's been handled. It has been handled really well, but it's also been handled very mediocre.

Speaker 3:

Like we have into the spider-verse amazing which we can talk about spider-man because, oh yeah, the guy that Hates spider-man isn't here Is.

Speaker 1:

Is he watching? Let's see, I got a new phone case.

Speaker 3:

Oh, you guys need to check out his phone case. He got this just to spite Billy. Billy, are you watching?

Speaker 1:

It's good shit? Probably not. I watched you guys when I wasn't here, yeah and look at Billy.

Speaker 3:

He just doesn't, doesn't care.

Speaker 1:

So sounds like him.

Speaker 3:

We're literally in his house without a mirror doesn't even care about us. Huh, but yeah, spider-man dr.

Speaker 1:

Strange was not done as nearly as good as it could have.

Speaker 3:

Second spider-man movie. I need to see the third, but it was handled. It was pretty good across the spider yeah.

Speaker 1:

I think our only complaint with across the spider-verse is like would there be this many spider-man that would just to go along with?

Speaker 3:

a but see, I, almost I. That's why I want to wait until see, because my theory is that they don't know what's going on what Miguel is Fighting for.

Speaker 1:

Miguel Can't even stick to Walls, he has claws, he has claws. He just a lot of property damage, stabbing shit, but gales, not even peter. No, in fact there's not that many Peters. Is there any Peter, except for Peter B Parker in the final, like yeah team up, team up.

Speaker 3:

There's penny. What's noir's name?

Speaker 1:

Uh, I don't know, but his, his uncle, is benjamin parker.

Speaker 3:

So it's probably peter that sounds like an old name. That's probably peter there's peter parker, penny. Um, yeah, peter parker. So there's, there you go.

Speaker 1:

Spider-man noir. The comic is so much darker.

Speaker 3:

Spider-man noir than this cage.

Speaker 1:

It's not Nicholas Cage, it's not goofy, it's even has a gun thing. But yeah, at least they did Scarlet's spider dirty, though, and the main I love. Scarlet's spider he's.

Speaker 3:

I love his design. His design is by far my favorite. That's my favorite suit in Spider-Man games. Yes, I love it looks so good.

Speaker 1:

The only thing I wish it had would be dynamic eyes.

Speaker 3:

I know those hard.

Speaker 1:

Other than that, I love that suit. I love his whole outfit too. Like he's got like this, like it looks like armor, almost that he's got that blue sweater over it and like it's a scarlet spider looks so good in the shoes like to have grip, and he's got those little bags on his ankles. Yeah, and he's got those like those ninja shoes. Yeah, like you know, I'm talking about the toe. Yeah, he's got like the toe. So that's the suit I usually wear in that game. This is Scarlet's spider suit.

Speaker 3:

I that's the one I usually wear too.

Speaker 1:

I wore the Toby suit also, for I think it's overrated. I think it's overrated. People, people fought for that so hard to and they gave insomniac, such shit.

Speaker 3:

They got toxic with it too. Weren't they something like death?

Speaker 1:

threats. Yeah, I'm like, oh my God, get the fuck over it. Like there was like one YouTuber that was like God, he was the worst. I forget his name now, but he was constantly like calling them out, saying they're the worst developer for not having it this and that, and then when they released it, he was like you think I'm going to apologize. He's like you guys deserve that. You're lucky we are going to drop it down. I'm like, oh my God. Like why did they need to have this suit in the? They never cared. Any other Spider-Man game? No.

Speaker 3:

And the Spider-Man video game fan base is so toxic. I hate it. I know you did. You see all the stuff about the face? Yeah, they threw a fit so much and I'm like so for context, for anybody who doesn't know if it's you, billy or Jinglebees they changed the face in the Spider-Man game. They updated it and the reason they gave is they said that it's it fits the voice actors facial capture better.

Speaker 1:

So, like all of the cut scenes and mostly everything in there is motion captured.

Speaker 3:

But the first game, the original face they had, they went in and it was like handcrafted animation, like they had to move it, they couldn't just because it didn't match Yuri Lowenthal's face. So they changed it and, oh my God, the fan base just about had an aneurysm. And they still do, still, still. They are mad that the original face got replaced and you can't go, you can't look on the Spider-Man game Reddit like more than five posts without seeing somebody complain about his face and it's just I don't get it.

Speaker 1:

First off, peter has never been like he's not supposed to be, like attractive yeah, he's a nerd. And like in Black Cat in the comics, she was like turned off the moment she saw his face. Like she literally was like please put your mask back on. Like you better aspire me. Yeah, like she could not handle it so like it would. It tracks that. You know he's not like some fucking stud underneath. He's not Superman.

Speaker 3:

Well, henry Cavill, they're saying, like the new face is too attractive, what, yeah? And then they just imagine being the old face and like, wow guys, thanks, he's too attractive.

Speaker 1:

What is what's going on here? Yeah, they seem too pretty. Honestly, the two most toxic fandoms are Spider-Man and Star Wars, which is, like my two, like most favorite properties.

Speaker 3:

How is the Lord of the Rings families?

Speaker 1:

They're pretty chill. Yeah, most Lord of the Rings fans I know they they're purists, so they are purists, so when it comes to things that aren't, like Tolkien approved, they do lose their shit. Like Rings of Power, they do not share the opinion of Billy Billy. Yeah, they fucking hate it with a passion because it wasn't. It wasn't written by Tolkien, so yeah. So I guess any fandom, if you, if you have something to be passionate about, you'll find those people. But like Star Wars is really bad, really bad. Some.

Speaker 1:

There's sometimes where I'm like it's like, oh my god, just get over it and have a good time. Like I loved the show Ahsoka, which I mean what? Eventually we'll have to talk about some of the complaints that like they're getting on. It is just like absurd. Like they're like the choreography, shit, the you know it took too long for Ahsoka to have her character arc. They don't like this, they don't like that. And I'm like there's so much to like about it. Why are you focusing so much on the negatives? And I don't even think the choreography is that bad. Like it's way better than what we got in the sequel trilogy. Like way better. But like, just because it's not Anakin Obi-Wan Mustafa level of fighting like I don't know if we'll ever get that again that was like a multi-million dollar movie, a couple million dollar TV show, yeah so like I don't know what the budget was for Ahsoka, but that's the type of thing that people like Star Wars.

Speaker 1:

They get really upset and every time they do something that's like the fan base whenever something happens that they like, they go oh man, dave Filoni, he's the best. I'm just we should let him take over, which I'm not arguing. Dave Filoni is does deserve all the credit he's given. But then the moments something happens that they don't like, they're like Disney fucking ruining Star Wars and it's like did you forget that Dave Filoni is attached?

Speaker 1:

to this episode too like if it's bad, it's Disney, if it's good, as Dave Filoni like, they just don't, like they can't separate anything so it was a hundred million, more than a hundred million, so that's pretty big budget, but, but compared to let's see Star Wars- it's a revenge of the Sith film. It's a Star Wars 3 wow, now we. If we adjust that to inflation, though, hold on the budget for Ahsoka is literally the same as the budget for revenge of the Sith you misspoke.

Speaker 3:

Hold on hold on, what if I adjust or inflation?

Speaker 1:

9.1 billion. Let's just do go to an inflation calculator, just plug in the numbers remember the number. I'm like literally having an allergy attack right now. Chat, do you remember what we said? 113 million. Okay, go to that second one. It says in alright, we'll just do the US inflation so if in 2003, I purchased 9 for 113 million.

Speaker 3:

In 2023, that would be 188 million not that much more inflation has increased on that level 66%, 66% yeah, I mean, it's just face it, I guess Ahsoka had almost as much money as I guess that argument fell flat. It did okay well, but that being said, Ahsoka is still good.

Speaker 1:

All right, they gave us some of the best stuff ever in episode 5 all the Clone War flashbacks, young Ahsoka young Ahsoka is played by the same person that played young Gamora. She's killing, killing. She's playing young versions of all these characters. That's what she'll do for the rest of her career. She's gonna stay young she's gonna stay a child, never grow up, never grow up, never change so what mortal combat got me thinking of this?

Speaker 3:

I wanted to ask you, kyle, what's your like favorite kung fu movie? Oh, and chat, if you're out there, what's your? Favorite kung fu movie that's a tough one because there's a lot.

Speaker 1:

I think rush out, rush, rush hour. I really like bulletproof monk with that guy from American pie. No, my favorite kung fu movie is probably and it's not this one isn't, like you know, as grand or as mythological as, like you know, crouching tiger, hidden dragon or that, but I really like Jet Lee's fearless mm-hmm, okay, they've ever seen Jet Lee's fear?

Speaker 3:

I have not super. I I'm gonna admit here I haven't seen. I haven't seen a lot of. I haven't seen much kung fu movies.

Speaker 1:

Chat says it man who it man's good to down again. This was a very dramatized version of Bruce Lee's master, but the first that man was was really good. The second one was good. Third one it gets a little weird. I got Mike Tyson in it why not? A fight with Donnie in. Yeah, it man's good. You know a movie I liked what it was kind of like a watered-down Americanized version, but I really like forbidden kingdom that yes that was so good I like for me.

Speaker 3:

I watched that so many times that would prop. That's probably close to my favorite shoot. You know, I'm gonna say that one is my favorite, just because I can't think of any others that I've seen. I do want to throw out, though, that one of like one of the movies as a kid that I saw that got me into like karate movies. Besides, karate kid was a Teenage Mutant, ninja Turtles, some two secret of the secret of the use. The second one because they, those were real people in the costume doing kung fu, yeah, and it, it shows and it looks good. So, yeah, I would say that, plus the, the main air, or the, the main human they have, he's also a martial artist yeah you know, what the hit Kato you know movie.

Speaker 1:

I used to watch a lot what it was called surf ninjas surf ninjas, surf ninjas. I think I've heard of this and it had um, what's? It had like two guys that I don't even know who they are anymore. But then it also had yeah, rob Schneider, arnie Ray's Jr. Yeah, rob Schneider.

Speaker 3:

Leslie Nelson.

Speaker 1:

Leslie Nelson played the bad guy and his name is Colonel Chee and he's like an Asian guy, but it's, he's not Asian, like boy. Yeah, surf ninja it was. It was laughably bad, but as a kid, but also has Kato, yeah so he was. Junior, same guy. He was in surfing and he plays a surfer and apparently they're surfing over Leslie Nelson's character as we can.

Speaker 3:

Let's see, let's see if I can figure this out, guys, no, no no, what about the three ninjas?

Speaker 1:

don't talk about the kids.

Speaker 3:

I think but just what it is just look up surf ninjas Beverly, beverly Hill Ninja with Tommy boy Tommy boy, chris Farley, chris. Farley that one's good, because that is that I still like that movie, because it's just funny and you have his brother the whole time played by the original Luke Kane from the Mortal Kombat movie Beverly Hills Ninja. Let me pull it up for you here Robin show he played Luke Kane. He did a lot.

Speaker 3:

He's in death race to, just in case that's his biggest role that's right fighter, the legend of Chun Lee and he was in the head, I believe, is one of my favorite parts about the Mortal Kombat movie from the 90s is after he beats Shang Tsung.

Speaker 1:

He's like flawless victory.

Speaker 3:

It's like no, you definitely got your ass kicked a little bit there.

Speaker 1:

He just had to say it. Okay, man with the iron fists, is that the one with that rapper? I think it is man with iron fists yes, I do remember that and that one is that one actually is pretty good. Yeah, yeah it's, it's kind of weird and cheesy, but I did that one is pretty good.

Speaker 3:

Did you ever watch that's not really a kung fu movie, but 47 Ronan?

Speaker 1:

with Keanu. That's a like a samurai movie yeah like a mythological samurai movie.

Speaker 3:

I liked it. I love so Jackie Chan, any movie he's in Shanghai night, shanghai noon, those movies are great, owen Wilson. Wow. Wow, the whole time. Jackie's going alright.

Speaker 1:

Dylan, what you're gonna be able to entertain them for a second. I will try my best. Right, I gotta step away. I'm literally dying from allergies right now.

Speaker 3:

I can't even open my eyes well, chad, it's just me and you. We're having a very intimate. It looks like there's only two people watching, so I think that's me and me. But uh, yeah, I'm big fan of karate, kid. I do really enjoy that movie. I like Pat Merida miss me, augie. I think the original is so much better than the the newer one with Jane Smith, even though Jack Chan killed it, I just like. I like the older one. I don't know, there's something about the 80s vibe that that always gets me.

Speaker 3:

What did you think? You had a poster of Ralph Machio as on your wall. Ooh so did you watch Cobra Kai at all? I will fill the silence because it takes a little bit for you to type it out. I watched a couple episodes. I didn't make it through the whole show, I have to say. I think I made it through one season. I did like it. I just more stuff came on than than like. Oh well, it was pretty good. I would say I've heard it gets better as you watch it, but I would say it was pretty good, especially if you like Ralph Macho. He's in it, but sadly Pat Morina isn't. I think he passed away. Let's see, I'm pretty sure he passed away. He would be super old. Yeah, he passed away in 2005. Well, he was great. It's crazy. If you ever like, read the history about him. Now I'm going to look it up real quick here before I I completely just talk out my butt.

Speaker 1:

But I want to say Skate from New York was based on Pat Morina.

Speaker 3:

Yes, no, I want to.

Speaker 1:

What were you thinking happened?

Speaker 3:

I for some reason thought he was held in like you know how during World War II we had the internment camps for Japanese people. Why are you laughing at that? Just because a lot of people forget that we did have those.

Speaker 1:

That's a little messed up that you'd laugh at that Manziner, is that what it's called? There's one in South California. No, I'm laughing for some reason. Yeah, why are we terrible people?

Speaker 1:

There's a manziner in South like Southern California, that every time we drive to like Disneyland, we always pass it like right there on the main road. It's crazy. It's weird that, yeah, you're right, though Like they just don't teach that really Like yes, it wasn't as bad as like what they were doing with the Jews, with Jewish people, but still that's pretty messed up part of history that they just pass over and pretend to have and they're like oh, by the way, we had internment camps.

Speaker 3:

But anyways moving on, we won the war, merica.

Speaker 1:

Therefore, we write the history book. History is written by the victor. Did you watch Cobra?

Speaker 3:

Kai, I did. I watched all of it, all of it. What's your opinion on the whole show, because I watched like one season. It's cheesy.

Speaker 1:

And it's. It's a little silly at times and there's moments where it feels like kind of like a CW show, but it's entertaining, it's really fun to watch and they throw in a ton of fan service into it. But yeah, I liked, I like Cobra Kai. I especially liked this last season it was. It was really good and I love I don't want to spoil anything, I guess, but the arcs that Johnny and Ralph that's his real name I know but Daniel.

Speaker 1:

Daniel, daniel, daniel. Go on by the time like I think season four is last one. By the time they go into that. I love their, their character development.

Speaker 3:

So I know chat is dying to know Is there any shirtless Ralph Machio scenes?

Speaker 1:

Oh, man, not that I recall. I don't know if my Ralph Machio holds up shirtless anymore. To be honest, maybe there isn't, it just didn't stand out to me, you know, look up, look up Ralph Machio shirtless Ralph Machio, let's see what, what we're cooking with here.

Speaker 3:

So I'm still surprised you had a Ralph Machio poster on your wall as a kid, because that was old.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you were. You weren't old enough to be around when he was a hard problem.

Speaker 3:

He didn't age like at all. Pretty much I mean he still looks young he looks young.

Speaker 1:

Go to Google images. Let's really get into this here.

Speaker 3:

The nitty gritty I wish I could figure out. Give me Wow.

Speaker 1:

Some of these are actually blocked for a parental.

Speaker 3:

There is. There's quite a few on ugly Betty, on ugly Betty, he's shirtless. He was shirtless on ugly Betty that was in love with him. Jinglebees was in love with this man right here. If I could figure out how to.

Speaker 1:

I love how to be a require somehow there Toe wire.

Speaker 3:

And then, who's this random guy that they keep? That's from Cobra Kai. But that's Johnny's son. Johnny's son, his name's not Ralph Machio.

Speaker 1:

That guy sure was a lot in the show.

Speaker 3:

Now, I can't figure it out.

Speaker 1:

Ralph Machio holds up, he does. Did you ever know Rob.

Speaker 3:

Lowe no. But, did you ever see the skit? This is to both you, kyle and chat. The one the funnier dice get him an outsider.

Speaker 1:

He's such a little kid. No outsiders. Ralph Machio looks like he's like 12 years old, but I guess to a young kid.

Speaker 3:

That's the right age. Yeah, when you're watching me like wow, wow.

Speaker 1:

I was all about Patrick Swayze.

Speaker 3:

Patrick Swayze.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, in the outsiders at least.

Speaker 3:

You know, I'm going to admit it here, I've never seen the outside.

Speaker 1:

What it's like. It's like the requirement of being a man, obviously not you gotta read that book. You gotta watch that movie. That's not as good as the book. There's a lot of stuff that you haven't seen. They were starting to do. Tom Cruise was in the outsiders.

Speaker 3:

He was yeah, I saw a stand by me. Is that like cover my base there?

Speaker 1:

I guess I'm like oh, chat said oh yeah, that's what I'm saying. Man Never seen outsiders. Yes, I'm serious, I used to when I first read the book. So there's like the soches is like one of the games. I used to call them the socks Because I was reading it wrong as a kid. Socks, the socks, dylan Dylan.

Speaker 3:

Dylan, I don't know you guys, you guys need to come up with a list.

Speaker 1:

Outsiders is not one of those things that you could just watch as an adult, I feel like I had to be there I appreciate as much as it would have been if you had saw it when you were younger. Essential movies Did you watch the same?

Speaker 3:

lot at least. Yes, okay, I'm one's get foreign essential movies for a nerd? Okay, these, so Me too.

Speaker 1:

With the soches comment I think, oh, when I first read that book and then I saw the movie, I was like oh, they're not called the socks, Okay.

Speaker 3:

Which one should we go to Kyle?

Speaker 1:

Don't go to Reddit.

Speaker 3:

I am. Db.

Speaker 1:

All right, that's the whole thing. Let's see Essential nerd movies.

Speaker 3:

So we're looking up and seeing how much of these I missed.

Speaker 1:

Star Wars, blade Runner, star Wars, star Wars so far, so good. I've seen all these the Matrix.

Speaker 3:

Planet of the Apes, the OG one. The OG, yes, but none of the sequels. That's okay. The only the first one was good. The OGs.

Speaker 1:

I really like Rise of the Planet Apes and those movies Star Trek, 2. Rathakon, fuck you. Tron the OG. Tron Jeff Bridges. Jeff Bridges is a I love Tron Legacy Dark City I haven't seen Dark City. Dark City, a man struggles with memories of his past which include a wife he cannot remember. In a nightmarish world no one has. No one else ever seems to wake up from. Dude, that's me, I'm just kidding, that's me, I'm him. I'm him, I'm for real. For real. Tron Legacy Totally underrated. It was so good so good it bombed at the box office too.

Speaker 3:

And they're making a new one, are they? But you know who's the main character, who Jared Leto.

Speaker 1:

Why, don't know? Why are they giving it to this man? Hate it.

Speaker 3:

Tron Legacy sequel Jared Leto's destroying everything, everything.

Speaker 1:

I love. There he is right, there Is he playing. Like the game. The sound of Jeff Bridges, or is it a whole new character?

Speaker 3:

I think it's a whole new character. Let's see, yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah blah blah Tron yeah, there we go.

Speaker 1:

Release back there. The only good thing that Jared Leto was in was.

Speaker 3:

Blade Runner. He's so creepy in that, and good.

Speaker 1:

I've never seen Dows Buyer's Club. I heard he played a pretty good character. I mean he won an Oscar for it.

Speaker 3:

I guess he was good. Let's see what else on this list Ghostbusters Metropolis. I was telling you Ghostbusters, okay, metropolis. No. Ghostbusters 1927? I have 1927. Yes.

Speaker 1:

I quite frequently watch movies over like 100 years, 100 years old.

Speaker 3:

Raiders of the Lost Ark Ghostbusters yeah.

Speaker 1:

I've seen it Close encounters of the third kind.

Speaker 3:

Yep, that's a good one.

Speaker 1:

Never ending story. Sad as hell. Alien. Best horror film of all time.

Speaker 3:

See, I don't know about best, because I love I'm a thing guy. Okay, well, syfy. Kurt Russell does it for me.

Speaker 1:

Syfy horror goes. Yeah, I can see Ghost Rider.

Speaker 3:

Number 28. What the flick cage is? Ghost Rider? That's an essential nerd movie. Why? Who made this list? And I love how it's even above. Like Avengers In Dune, we haven't even gotten to Avengers or like any superhero movie.

Speaker 1:

But that's that's the superhero movie that makes the list the one that got a 35 on the next Pan's Labyrinth Predator Predator 2.

Speaker 3:

I have not seen the original Dune, really. I haven't the new one's better, I've seen the new one Predator Predator 2. The princess bride. Did you see Prey? Yeah, you never. Prey was amazing.

Speaker 1:

So good, I love that movie. I love that movie.

Speaker 3:

Did we not talk about it? I don't think we did, because it was a. It was a release from home Right, it didn't come out yeah. I watched it on Hulu, I think Hulu's where it was released. Yeah, if you like Disney movie, yeah. If you like. Technically, yeah, hulu's owned by Disney, but it's 20th Century Fox which is owned by Disney. So if you like Predator, they made a new one called Prey Really good.

Speaker 1:

Really good. It's like a young predator species. That's like going through like his trial.

Speaker 3:

Well, this takes place like an early colonial wait, maybe before colonial America.

Speaker 1:

like Native American, yeah, this is like right during the time of like first First contact with trappers. Is it, though? Or? Is it? Like yeah, trappers Right.

Speaker 3:

Have you seen it? Jingle Bees? It's a kick gas movie. The main girl and her dog. I was so scared for the dog.

Speaker 1:

The whole time I'm like that dog better, not Just so you know, dog doesn't die.

Speaker 3:

Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert.

Speaker 1:

They need to be on the edge of their seat.

Speaker 3:

I will spoil that one thing, because I know there's a lot of people that don't.

Speaker 1:

That's a part of the intrigue, though, is like will they, won't they cross that line? Yeah, no.

Speaker 3:

My mom. She wouldn't watch it unless I told her the dog's going to be fine, dude.

Speaker 1:

Did your mom have a hard time with Guardians then? Oh, she hates that movie.

Speaker 3:

She hates number three, guardians three. She said that's the worst one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a lot for an animal lover to watch.

Speaker 3:

She was like it was traumatic for her watching that and I was like, oh god, I didn't know it was going to be this bad for you. Like, I'm sorry, I'm very desensitized. They haven't seen. Prey you, I'm sorry. They stopped animating the fake animal yeah. I'm sorry they drew it dead. No, she was like covering her eyes and I think she cried at one point I was like God.

Speaker 1:

Everyone's, even quote from friends, were Chandler, uh huh, like you didn't cry a baby. He was like, yes, I was so sad when the artist stopped drawing the deer.

Speaker 3:

That's a good one.

Speaker 1:

Going back to.

Speaker 3:

Princess bride Amazing.

Speaker 1:

One of my favorite movies of all time. Actually, I love the Princess bride I, it is.

Speaker 3:

to me it's such a weird movie, like in how it exists. Was it a book Is?

Speaker 1:

it a book? Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that the screenplay was written by the same person that wrote the book.

Speaker 3:

Wow, yeah, like it kind of feels like it comes out of nowhere, like there's. I don't have any background for it. You know, I just watch it and like, oh, that's cool. But it's like I don't what made them want to make this movie.

Speaker 1:

I have no idea. Like it has some of my, like most favorite moments in movies. Like I love when, when he's like he gets stabbed Inigo Montoya, uh huh, and he has that. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father, prepare to die and he's like saying it's such an epic moment. When he's like he doesn't give up and he keeps saying that and then he goes. He's like beg for your life and he's like I'll do anything. He's like I want my father back you, son of a bitch, and then stabs him. It's so good. I love that. Um, I also love how, just how funny it is, though, too, it's really funny. Like I love the part when that one guy God, what is his name? The one that voices Rex and Toy Story and the one that I was inconceivable.

Speaker 1:

Oh what is that guy's name in real life? Um, I forget. But I love when he like starts laughing all maniacally because he thinks he fooled the masked man and he's like laughing, he's like ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha and then he just falls over dead.

Speaker 3:

That's one of the funniest. I watched this. Uh, I think I saw it on like Reddit or something. Wallace Sean is the name of the guy yes, okay, and that scene where he poisons him, I guess it's inhaled, the poisons inhaled, and so like when he says like smell it, like that's when he got it, that's the. Not, he doesn't, it doesn't go in any of the drinks. But he says here it's an odorless poison smell. That's the theory. That's the way.

Speaker 3:

And it makes I like it. Next we have up Batman Begins Good movie Movie. Lord of the Rings, fellowship of the Ring. Yeah truly.

Speaker 3:

I just saw that Akira Akira, I mean it's good. It's good, it's a nerd movie, but yeah, that's your favorite motorcycle tire book. It's, the motorcycle is so cool. X -Men, x-men 2, x-men, last Stand, x-men oh, it's all the X-Men. Who's making this list? I am BD, okay, yeah, but there's an editor that made this list. I know it's not even based on like score. Some of these are weird. We got all the supermans. I haven't seen those Willow Willow scene Never ending story the Goonies.

Speaker 1:

Please tell me, you've seen the Goonies? I have. You're going to say you haven't. I was like you son of a bitch.

Speaker 3:

Not seen it.

Speaker 1:

Have you seen it or have you not seen? It, I've seen. Goonies so many times Billy, it's so good you call me Billy. I said Dylan. I'm pretty sure I said Dylan I. Goonies is also one of those movies that takes me back to my childhood. Oh yeah, even alive when it came out, but I watched it alive. What?

Speaker 3:

kind of 1985?

Speaker 1:

You weren't born yet 10 years older than me, but God is so good and it's so weird to see like all those characters like young, like Sean Astin and Josh Brolin.

Speaker 3:

Josh Brolin plays the older brother.

Speaker 1:

Good movie. Is that? The second one. No, Gremlin is the first. One Is Gremlin's two. That adds up.

Speaker 3:

I was wondering if it was like Alien Aliens.

Speaker 1:

Gremlin Gremlins.

Speaker 3:

I don't think so. Chronicles of Riddick. That movie was not that great Black, which is also Chronicles of Riddick, right?

Speaker 1:

It's the first one, watchmen. Oh, here we go. Spider-man. Spider-man 2, not so much Spider-Man 3.

Speaker 3:

Stargate. Do you think I've seen that one?

Speaker 1:

Kyle, you know I haven't seen Stargate, which is weird because I've seen the whole show. Chad said you did say Billy. Of course they would agree with you. They have video evidence. I said Dylan, I think that Dilly and Billy sound similar. So you said Dilly. I thought I'd call you Dilly Bar when I feel frisky. Maybe that's what happened.

Speaker 3:

I've seen Stargate, because look who stars in it, right there, kurt Russell, james Spader Nice, james Spader. Star Trek, the motion picture Star Trek 2, star Trek 4, star Trek 3. Okay, lots of Star Treks. I've seen them all. I've seen the newer. Star Treks.

Speaker 1:

Have you seen the Cursed Pine Star?

Speaker 3:

Trek yes, I've seen that one because it has new technology. That isn't the reason I watched it, but just it was like a thing. You know, jj Abrams with the lens flare everywhere. Did you ever watch Super 8? I did that. I really liked that movie.

Speaker 1:

I used to really like JJ Abrams. Yeah. Then he did Star Wars. I'm going to be one of those toxic fans. He ruined everything.

Speaker 3:

Disney Predators what's that? Predators, the N? Yeah, that's one with Adrian.

Speaker 1:

Brody.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that one was all right.

Speaker 1:

That one was. It had Topper Grace played like a serial killer. It has. He's getting killed, he's like but I'm one of you he's getting pulled off. It's kind of weird.

Speaker 3:

I pray is so much better than Predators. Yeah, pray feels like Arnold AVP. The thing I remember about that movie was dark. It was really hard to see anything. Kaden versus Predator King Solomon's Mines.

Speaker 1:

That kind of looks like a knockoff of Indiana Jones.

Speaker 3:

Now one knockoff that I'm okay with Romancing the Stone I do like well, that was kind of.

Speaker 1:

It's not even a knockoff, but it makes fun of. Well, it's not makes fun of, but like it's. It's a unique approach because she's like a novel writer, she writes a story like that and then gets taken into that world literally so that I do like Romancing the Stone. That's a good one.

Speaker 3:

Do you see there they're coming out with a new movie called Argyle, which is like, like, kind of like that it's like that, but about a spy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's got Henry Cavill with it as Argyle as Argyle, and then the real life spy is what's his name from Iron man 2?

Speaker 3:

Oh, it's going to bug me. I know his name. He's also in Charlie's Angels.

Speaker 1:

Yep, as the and he always dances in every movie. He's like a weird dancing scene he does. What is that guy's name Exactly? Province name Cause he was going to pay me down and they got it just controlled. His name is John. Cena it's John. Cena.

Speaker 3:

It also has Dua Lipa in her second acting role that I know of she was also. Barbie. Oh, okay, she's a music artist turned actor. Now, apparently, we then have Thor, captain America. Now we get to those. Oh, those are the top two ones you need to see out of all the Marvel movies, three Marvel films for above all of them in the Captain.

Speaker 1:

America, the first Avenger.

Speaker 3:

Wow Okay, contact. That's a good one, narnia.

Speaker 1:

Bob Zemeckis did that. He did.

Speaker 3:

Where's Back to the Future? It's not even on here. I just realized that.

Speaker 1:

Back to the Future isn't on here. That's who made this list.

Speaker 3:

Now we reach the rest of Lord of the Rings. Okay, we're going to a different list. This list sucks, man. We're going to Collider 10. This is according to IMBD. Well wait, why is this list different? Alien Alien Trilogy.

Speaker 1:

Indiana Jones Jurassic.

Speaker 3:

Park. Iron man makes sense, terminator and Terminator 2.

Speaker 1:

Back to the Future.

Speaker 3:

There you go Star Wars, why not the Trilogy? I do agree the second one is a little weak, but the third one is good Back to the Future.

Speaker 1:

It does say Trilogy.

Speaker 3:

I did not see that somehow.

Speaker 1:

It says Trilogy right in.

Speaker 3:

Star Wars the Lord of the Rings trilogy the Matrix. The Dark Knight trilogy. Well, I've seen all of those.

Speaker 1:

I feel like to be a true nerd movie.

Speaker 3:

You need, like those niche films. Mantrian candidate you ever seen that?

Speaker 1:

The Boy in the Stripe of Janus, the Nifty Greatest.

Speaker 3:

Stargate Okay, here we go. This is Spaceballs. This looks like a good list. Here we go. Gadica Never seen it.

Speaker 1:

Gadica could have been a very bland standard science fiction story, but under the helm of director Andrew Nicole it gained an incredible neo-noir. Look if you haven't, oh dude, it says that too.

Speaker 3:

Wow, wow, you were almost not reading it. I don't know, that's wild.

Speaker 1:

Office space. Office space is good, but is that a nerd movie? I don't know. Fight Club.

Speaker 3:

Run La La Run Interesting Memento's good Memento's good 300. 300. Blue Blue.

Speaker 1:

Sin City.

Speaker 3:

Be for Vendetta 28 days later.

Speaker 1:

Battle Royale, battle Royale. It's all monkeys blade Turn of the Sunshine. That's a spotless mind. The movie's sad. The Crow, shawna of the.

Speaker 3:

Dead is good, shawna. I love the whole Coronado trilogy, the Edgar Wright. It still blows my mind, like the movies that he's done. He did Scott Pilgrim, he did Ant-Man.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't feel like it but it's like, yeah, he did Totally different kind of movie Zombieland, hellboy, Big Lebowski, big Lebowski.

Speaker 3:

Being John Malkovich Highlander. I haven't seen Highlander. What.

Speaker 1:

What do you mean? You haven't seen Highlander? I haven't. There can be only one. It's got the guy from Mortal.

Speaker 3:

Kombat in it. I know that line, but I've never seen it. Chad, have you seen Highlander? Am I also a disgrace? You've been a disgrace. War games I love war games. Let's play a game Army of Darkness. I haven't seen that Army of Darkness. Yeah, any of the old Samurimi ones.

Speaker 1:

It's when they get. It gets wild. Evil Dead originally starts off as like a horror film that turns into like an action film. Army of Darkness is what's his name from Evil Dead and he goes back in time. Yeah, ash, and like it's good for sure but it gets wild.

Speaker 3:

Seven Samurai Heard a lot about it, never seen it. There's so much based on that too. I know Dune we already talked about that one. Brazil Alright Sneakers.

Speaker 1:

Revenge of the Nerds Hackers yeah, it's got Angelina Jolie in it. It's got Shaggy, is that?

Speaker 3:

And he has Shaggy Matthew Lillard. Yeah, right, yeah, I guess. So I remember using that movie. I've never seen Hackers, I just know who's it, but Matrop there, matrop was a good one. We need to watch it. Look at that robot. That's pretty for 1928?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it looks pretty good.

Speaker 3:

Robocop.

Speaker 1:

Primer Pi.

Speaker 3:

As in the medical equation.

Speaker 1:

Pi that one 1998. This was 1998. That looks like 1928.

Speaker 3:

Ghost in the Shell. Ghost in the Shell Chat is shocked stuff like Labyrinth and Dark Souls.

Speaker 1:

That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 3:

That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. That is shock. Stuff like Labyrinth and Dark Crystal haven't been mentioned yet.

Speaker 1:

I know when is that these?

Speaker 3:

lists are weird.

Speaker 1:

What are these lists?

Speaker 3:

Monty Python.

Speaker 1:

Okay, Monty Python's good Tron.

Speaker 3:

Dark Knight, princess Bride, matrix, slaughter the Rings, blade Runner, blade Runner, serenity. He doesn't want a space.

Speaker 1:

Dude talk about the most overrated movie. I've never seen it.

Speaker 3:

I can't even talk about it with you barely you can, because I get that it's overrated Labyrinth, is there?

Speaker 1:

I loved Labyrinth as a kid? Yeah, I watched it over and over again Are you going to tell me you? Haven't seen it why?

Speaker 3:

would I have to pause? Because you looked at me like I haven't seen it.

Speaker 2:

I've seen Labyrinth. Okay, thank God, but it was funny because you went.

Speaker 3:

I've seen it over and over.

Speaker 1:

Because that was me getting disappointed as I was talking.

Speaker 3:

No, I've seen Labyrinth, david Bowie, yep, david Bowie.

Speaker 1:

And what's your name From Top Gun, maverick.

Speaker 3:

Jennifer Connelly. Jennifer Connelly yeah, have you seen Dark Crystal?

Speaker 1:

I have. Have you seen Dark Crystal? I have. I never watched the Netflix series, though.

Speaker 3:

No, I know, Jingle Bees, you watched the Netflix series right? How was that?

Speaker 1:

Weird sights. The net have you ever seen the net? No, me neither. Great, great talk. Yeah, where is Labyrinth man? How? Do you guys?

Speaker 3:

shrunk the kids oh these, are the best nerds from the movies ranked.

Speaker 1:

Okay, Napoleon Dynamite. From Napoleon Dynamite.

Speaker 3:

The Netflix series is so good.

Speaker 1:

Hmm, I have so much I have to catch up on, though I can't promise that I'll catch up on.

Speaker 3:

But it was canceled, which is really lame.

Speaker 1:

That's Netflix for you. Hmm, den of Geek. Oh, that list is way too long.

Speaker 3:

Oh, right here. What are you scary?

Speaker 1:

What did you click on?

Speaker 3:

Den of Geek.

Speaker 1:

Best Geek movies of the decade. Okay, all right, now they're called Geeks. All right, this is getting a little 49.

Speaker 3:

Wonder Woman is tied with the Hunger Games. The amount of CGI used in.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it's not all puppets. Oh yeah, lame.

Speaker 3:

That's a little lame. Especially if you have like Jim Henson's puppets. He's his deal, did Jim Henson Jim Henson? Did he do Ninja Turtles?

Speaker 1:

I don't know about Ninja Turtles, but he did Labyrinth I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 2:

The puppets are gorgeous, I could be totally wrong, but you know Jingle Bees did.

Speaker 3:

Did Jim Henson do Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? To the Secret of the Ooze? He did Labyrinth. You were right, I knew it, but Secret of the Ooze Also. Kyle, what do you think is better, Wonder Woman or Hunger Games?

Speaker 1:

So, all right, don't judge me.

Speaker 3:

Are you going to say Hunger Games?

Speaker 1:

No, I am going to say Wonder Woman as far as movies go, but I actually read all of the Hunger Games and I fucking love the books. Oh, you did yeah.

Speaker 3:

I, so I was much when they first came out. The only books I got into were, like Percy Jackson, no, speaking of we haven't mentioned on the podcast. Did you see the new series? Yeah. Did you watch the?

Speaker 1:

trailer. I didn't watch the trailer. I know Disney's doing it, though, right.

Speaker 3:

It looks really good. Actually, I'll have to do it. Chat says God, I'm so stoked for it. Percy is actually a young kid, he's not Logan.

Speaker 1:

Lerman.

Speaker 3:

He's like 20. Yeah, and it looks. It looks good so far from what they showed. All right, man, I'll have to watch it, though I my fingers are crossed because the movie did it dirty.

Speaker 1:

I am kind of over and it's somehow got a sequel to the movie, like there's two of them. I am kind of over the whole, like young adult, like drama. But genre you have to think that's just because we're older. Maybe I don't relate to 15 year olds anymore.

Speaker 3:

Maybe that's why, okay, jinglebee says they are re listening to the audiobooks to prepare the episode names. Are the chapter names, okay? And from what? I've heard Rick Riordan is involved closely with this one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I really liked Hunger Games, at least the books.

Speaker 3:

I.

Speaker 1:

I didn't like so much the casting of the films Like I think it's because I read the book first, I had a completely different image of like pretty much every character. Oh, okay. So like when the movie came out, like ever entertaining, but like who, who did you hate the most?

Speaker 3:

Like casting wise, casting wise.

Speaker 1:

I tell you who I liked the most was Woody Harrelson. Okay, yeah, but in my head I actually had like Tommy Lee Jones type of guy Okay. I wasn't a huge fan of Jennifer Lawrence at first. I think, she did okay, but like I didn't, I pictured someone different. It's hard to explain now because Gal Gadot she's so like iconic in that role. Yeah, but I was picturing like that chick that ended up being in the Divergent series. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 3:

Yeah yeah. Chat says the Hunger Game audio books are incredible. The narrator is amazing. Divergent was.

Speaker 1:

Shilin, yeah, shilin Woodley.

Speaker 3:

Shilin.

Speaker 1:

Woodley, that maybe not her per se, but I was picturing someone that maybe looked a little more like that.

Speaker 3:

Okay, yeah, I could see it. Yeah, I never read the book. I never.

Speaker 1:

I felt like Jennifer Lawrence kind of overacted at times, especially when she was like I'm all. I dare I'm. All I dare is tribute. Like I get it, you want to save your sister's life, but like I didn't, that scene didn't happen, like that in my head.

Speaker 3:

Kyle, how much money would it take for you to narrate an audio book of the Hunger Games where you pretend to be each character?

Speaker 2:

That's because I would love to see it. I'm all I dare. I'm all I dare. I'm all I dare is tribute.

Speaker 3:

You have an accent for each different character.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't even match their order, like Peter's got like a touch accent. I don't. I don't think you'd have to pay me that much. I feel like I would just enjoy doing that. Let's start a Kickstarter, guys.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that'll get some people, That'll get some traction. I didn't know this is even tied with guardians. How to train your dragon. 10 Cloverfield Lane, the girl how many is there?

Speaker 1:

under 43? What is this? What are these lists you keep pulling up?

Speaker 3:

Let's OK, let's just go all the way to the X.

Speaker 1:

Machina so good.

Speaker 3:

I haven't seen X.

Speaker 1:

You're fucking with me, I haven't.

Speaker 3:

Gravity is number one. Get the fuck out of here. No. No, gravity is number one. No, that was OK, but it is not number one Best geek movie of the decade.

Speaker 1:

The science in that movie was terrible, made no sense.

Speaker 3:

Inside out is two. What, what is this? Toy Story 3. There we go.

Speaker 1:

Mad Max Fury, road number four, that's OK.

Speaker 3:

Why are the others? This list is Paddington to Where's Paddington, Where's Paddington I have, although you know to be honest. I have heard really good things about Paddington like enough to get me interested in watching it, Like.

Speaker 1:

I've heard you don't change your life.

Speaker 3:

I've heard people say that and I'm like, OK, I don't, I don't expect it. But Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part two.

Speaker 1:

My series was sweaty enough for the.

Speaker 3:

Birdman Birdman is weird Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse.

Speaker 1:

Hereditary Hereditary.

Speaker 3:

Have you seen hereditary? I have, so Jingle Bees really likes that movie. I have not seen it.

Speaker 1:

You should watch it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they'll change your life. It'll change my life. Quoted by Kyle. You know, I still. The last Jedi is above it. Oh no. Who made this list this season? Oh Kubo.

Speaker 1:

I do like.

Speaker 3:

Kubo Snowpiercer that was weird. Looper.

Speaker 1:

Looper was good.

Speaker 3:

It was good.

Speaker 1:

I was surprised you've seen it Get out so. I I was saying get out to me saying that I've spread, get out.

Speaker 3:

Get out. No, looper, I really like Looper. Get out the movie, Get out. And you know the title Get out. Quotation. Just so we're clear. Just so we're clear. I'm not telling you get out. Okay, I really like that movie. I. The ending, though yeah, feel so badass, it'll change your life I.

Speaker 1:

I don't. I think get out. Get out is a little overrated.

Speaker 3:

I my opinion. Us is my favorite. Us is your favorite, I like nope.

Speaker 1:

I really like. Nope is hands down, my favorite.

Speaker 3:

But us, I guess, nope is, nope is so fucking good, and that's actually the one that people don't like.

Speaker 1:

But nope, I love the twist on the whole UFO.

Speaker 3:

I would say for me it goes. Nope, get out. Get out it's number.

Speaker 1:

Third, Us is definitely like it's nope, get out, then us. Okay, I just get out to above. There's nothing that's scary about us to me. It's not the scary part I just like, how weird it is yeah, that laugh is weird, like yeah that's just it. It was like I was getting second hand embarrassment from that, but nope, I love Nope, nope is really good, so good.

Speaker 1:

One of the my favorite scenes, just for the like, the sheer, like Maybe it affects me because I'm claustrophobic. That scene when it it's slowly digesting all those people like that is the only time I've watched a horror film where I've got like freak the fuck out. Like it like affected me. Oh, wow, because, like claustrophobia is like my true, most genuine fear. So just the thought of that like like makes me uneasy, just thinking about it.

Speaker 3:

So, kyle, I went to a haunted house here in town. It's at the Reno bowling Valley. You know the big ball, yeah, the glow, whatever it's the national championship bowling or whatever.

Speaker 3:

They changed part of it into a haunted house and there's a section where it has you. There's like a inflatable like I'm pretty sure they're originally used for you to like jump on, but it's sideways and it's pushing you against a wall and you have to. You have to slide through it. See, haunted houses, don't freak me out, but that would. And the thing is is we were talking, we went on like opening weekend and it was pretty slow, but the owner, or one of the ladies, was telling us that on busy nights. So there was two sections you went through, you went through it one way and then he had to turn around and go behind it and she was saying that on busy nights, the people that go behind it, that middle wall is actually movable, so they're pushing against you and you're pushing against them and it makes it even scarier.

Speaker 1:

That would. I would hate that I could force myself to get through anything, you know, but I would still. I would hate that.

Speaker 3:

I think Jinglebees said, and I quote I can't when we got to that section, but like things like heights, but doesn't bother me at all.

Speaker 1:

I could literally stand against like a thousand foot drop and it doesn't affect me. I don't feel that kind of fear.

Speaker 3:

But let me ask you this though Do you at least like have caution? Like? This is a fucking far? I have to tell myself like I have to tell myself that I'm in a dangerous spot.

Speaker 1:

I need to not be doing that. Like me and my friend Nick, growing up like we would like just climb like 300 foot cliffs with no equipment.

Speaker 1:

Oh that's what I remember I heard, and we didn't really think much of it, and then like I actually have to tell myself, like actually don't do that, cause that's stupid, because like, for some reason, the fear of heights just doesn't, it doesn't compute my brain, but get me into a room that I can't see out of. I start freaking the fuck out when I couldn't even get an elevator for the longest time. If there were stairs, I was taking stairs, no matter how many flights so just to catch our one viewer.

Speaker 3:

Oh no, he got two years now.

Speaker 1:

Billy, are you here yet? God damn it. No, he doesn't care about us. I think that's like maybe us.

Speaker 3:

But just to catch viewers up. So Kyle was telling this story. He went, billy was there and him and Billy and a whole group of friends they went to Yosemite. And which mountain was it?

Speaker 1:

I forget the name. It wasn't Half Dome, but it was another one of those big giant cliffs he free soloed. Yeah, we did, me and my friend how old 21?

Speaker 3:

Maybe, oh wow, I thought it was earlier. I thought you guys were like 17.

Speaker 1:

No, I was definitely old enough to drink Wow, I know well, was I. It was the year we went to warp tour, because we did. We have to somebody that worked her. So that was 2013, 2014, so maybe I was only like 18 or 19 now that I think about it. And he climbed it for you solo.

Speaker 1:

But, yeah, so we, we climbed that like free solo. We went all the way to the top and like it was incredible, like the views was insane. And then on our way down we saw the science had safety equipment required me on this point. We went like a good hundred feet past that it was. It was wild and I was in vans in van.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I wasn't even the best climbing shoes out there. It's a no for me, dog.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was uh, we used to do sure like that all the time, though. Now you know I have a family now and like I would never do anything that might compromise my life, but it doesn't bother me that kind of thing.

Speaker 3:

I don't know if I have any phobias. I do say I have. I Don't trust ladders Really. Yeah, I would rather climb up like a rock wall than a ladder. I I know they're safe and I know they've been used so many times, but it's just like how shaky they are. Yeah, I don't like that. I like to know it's sturdy.

Speaker 1:

I'm the kind of person that climbs to the very top, past the OSHA approved point, and Tori has to be like Kyle. What?

Speaker 3:

are you doing step on this area, that this areas. That says no step. Oh Tori agreed with you, or?

Speaker 1:

she said thank you for that, because I said I have a family now.

Speaker 3:

Little did you know? We're actually tonight we're going free soloing. Yo, we're gonna hit that tonight. We're live streaming. Get ready, guys, this green screen.

Speaker 1:

There was a I remember At the top of the Space Needle they have like this glass that leans over the edge. Uh-huh, I remember getting like really giggly, giggly. Yeah, like Wow, when you lean over the edge like I get giggly, you get like that's such a weird, this is wild. You know, like I'm not, like I'm gonna die.

Speaker 3:

There's an emoji of a monkey without looking.

Speaker 1:

She doesn't like to look when I'm doing something like that.

Speaker 3:

So, like I said, this is green screen. We're actually in Yosemite, yep, naturally. Yeah, we're just priming up now, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I even have a photo of my friend Nick, because he's the same way I am. He's just like we both just went for it where I Took a photo of him. He were he free, soloed this cliff. I'll find it eventually. But he's at the very top and it's like like 200 feet in the air and I take a photo of him. He's just like a little speck. And then I sent that to his wife and she's just like aren't you guys too old for this? Like we were, this was like two years ago.

Speaker 3:

You're like no, never. Hmm, wow, yeah, I like. So, if I'm a pie, I this is the reason why I don't think it's phobia is like I Don't. I. It's not like I'm deathly afraid, like I can't do it, but I'm definitely like I'm cautious, like I'll be like okay, this is high up, let me look. Wow, this is high up and it's like, but it's not like.

Speaker 1:

You know what's even crazier, when I'm like above, like when I like look into like a deep abyss, like I've never been to the Grand Canyon. But just picture just picture something like that. When I see anything like that, I almost feel like I have this uncontrollable urge to jump. And it's not suicidal because I'm not suicidal, it's like I feel like I'm like, I almost feel like I'm about to be possessed to the point where I feel like I could just fly.

Speaker 1:

I Kind of get that like the intrusive thoughts right yeah, like like Maybe I could, like you know, jump and then, like, open my shirt, use it to glide or something, but like I I don't know what it is, but I have this like, like, like feeling like I could just jump into that, you know, and it's weird.

Speaker 3:

I can't explain it. You see, I get that a lot when I'm driving. Like that I could make a jump, like if I drive up this cliff right here, I can do it, I can get my truck. It's like that scene in Fast Furious on when they're in Dubai and they jump between three towers. Yeah, I watched that scene again recently. Oh god, ridiculous it's been ridiculous. It's been ridiculous.

Speaker 1:

Fast 5 was the last one that I like, feel like I genuinely enjoyed.

Speaker 3:

After that? Do you have any other phobias, Kyle?

Speaker 1:

No, no, fear tight spaces. I Don't think anything else is a phobia. Yeah actually have a fear of it, like the fear of being inadequate.

Speaker 3:

It's fear being alone.

Speaker 1:

I don't think. Yeah, I wouldn't say I have any other phobias. I I like swimming, but drowning seems like it'd be a very painful death, but I don't have a fear of water.

Speaker 3:

So you can like swim in the ocean, no problem.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I can swim in the ocean, no problem, because if. I see under the void too. Like I Think I call that the last phobia. Yeah, fear of water. That doesn't bother me either, but like I do feel like if you were to die by drowning, that would suck.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I think any way you die would suck, not if you just die in your sleep, in your sleep line, but like fire or if you, you know, get shot in the head, it's instantaneous if you poison yourself and throw up and then you just violently throw up for three days and then die.

Speaker 3:

Yeah the hydration I would suck starvation.

Speaker 1:

Let's not get like, I don't want to get flagged on you.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I'm get out to somebody.

Speaker 1:

if you are feeling Some some kind of way, yeah, talk to your friends. Talk to the hotline. I don't have the hotline number, unfortunately. There's a music song.

Speaker 3:

There's a music song logic, I love logic. That's the number. Listen to that.

Speaker 1:

Listen to that. We do not condone If you feeling that way, not getting help.

Speaker 3:

Yes, please, all right. No, we got that out of the way. Yeah, get out. Circle and back. You were seeing your favorite scene from that is what was your favorite scene I was talking about? No, nope. Yeah, your favorite scene from nope is the claustrophobia. Yeah, from get out. A scene that really caught me off guard was when he finally breaks free and then he's like fighting the lady and she takes that oh yeah and he just he Palms it and then just goes to the side. I'm like, oh, what pretty badass. It's pretty badass.

Speaker 1:

I will is parodying that running thing for the longest time. If you run into a split direction, real quick.

Speaker 3:

This list is horrible. I mean Hugo by Martin Scorsese is above. Lego movie is good with a quiet place. I love dogs. It's guy, full sky, full sky. Star Wars, there's us. The world's end, a rival. Arrival rivals. Good, should be hiring less.

Speaker 1:

Blade Runner 2049 I'm literally him, I'm him.

Speaker 3:

He's literally me, he's me. It's so good. I love this cinematography. In that one too, I never saw Mandy, me neither.

Speaker 1:

Nicholas Cage is weird, maze wild.

Speaker 3:

Wow, crazy guy. My dad loves Martian to the point.

Speaker 1:

It ruined it for you?

Speaker 3:

Yes, he watches it if it's on TV, he's watching it. I've only seen it once. I've seen it so many times. I've seen it at least 10 times. Abba Listen, coming from now. I don't I Dislike Queen Abba. I was okay with. But now you hit, but now it's. It's a little rubbing on me Just because I'm not a big fan of like 70s, like funk. And that's disco, disc Okay, 70s disco funk is play that funky music white boy. Funky if you and K why I know, but we might get flagged for a copyright.

Speaker 1:

Oh, are we that good that it sounds?

Speaker 3:

Like this on watch algorithm is gonna take us down Incredibles, to add Astra. Did you see that one? I didn't. That one was weird. Yeah, so the whole movie is about him going to find his dad and let's just say it kind of just it feels like a good movie and then it fizzles out Life. But I was weird, I didn't see that.

Speaker 1:

Dark Knight rises. Donna, play the apes.

Speaker 3:

Annihilation. I did not like annihilation. I everybody loves it. I really like Denny Villanueva, but I did not like that one. Did you watch it? I Don't think I see that one. I see no one Watch it. Come back to me, I think out of was the greatest movie.

Speaker 1:

Not only this is the greatest movie of all time, I don't even think I'll be able to watch another movie again.

Speaker 3:

Now we get to Avengers, endgame number 40, zoot. Oh, it's tied with Zootopia, though, guys vendors in game Zootopia same thing.

Speaker 1:

X Machina, and they were adding 10, we're back to padding to change your life.

Speaker 3:

I did, like the live-action Young book.

Speaker 1:

I know, dude, it's a diselva Voice acts, and then yeah, did a great and he did a good job, did he? Would that scene when he first introduces, when they first introduce him, and then he, he kill, he kills the wolf leader, like that. Like I was like oh my god, this guy's like a straight villain, like this is intense. Like you did it so good.

Speaker 3:

So, we're approaching here An hour 38 cow. Oh, man, that flew by. I know what did that happen, question I'll pose I don't know, do you want to keep talking or should we cut it? It's up to you, man, we can keep on. We'll go through this, logan. I do have a question to end the day on, though. Right Um finding door, finding Dory.

Speaker 1:

I thought that was your question. It was like what?

Speaker 3:

about it? 10 cloverfield Lane. Did you watch that one?

Speaker 1:

Uh, no, I did, it was.

Speaker 3:

Weird. I really liked that movie, not as a cloverfield. Yeah, unconnected from the cloverfield films? Yeah, like just as a film. Like john goodman I. His performance in that movie is so good as like a creepy guy that you kind of like you don't know if you trust or not. Yeah, because he's so creepy, but then it's like he's also a good guy sometimes.

Speaker 1:

I always think of. On 10 chlorophyll Lane. I always think of unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. Have you ever heard of that show?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, oh, because she was in.

Speaker 1:

Because she gets rescued from a bunker after like 10 years or something. That's literally her. That's what I think of like 10. Chlorophyll Lane is actually a prequel to unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt.

Speaker 3:

That makes sense. She was in another bunker. This website is so evil, kyle, that it has gone through and made it so we cannot go back to Google. You can't hit back. I hit back, it takes me right back to the website.

Speaker 1:

This is CNET. Double click it. Don't go to CNETcom. Apparently it's just the worst website. It's real bad guys. Go just X out of this. Let's get out of here.

Speaker 3:

Get out of here.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it's Ralph Machio shirtless.

Speaker 3:

Well that's what I wanted to see. Circling way back, we went super off topic. I was gonna say have you guys ever seen going back to Ralph Machio? Um, wax on fuck yeah, with Ralph funnier. Die did a Parity called wax on, fuck off, and it is really funny. I cracked up a lot. It was before Cobra Kai, so it was like it was talking about how he like he hasn't done anything since karate kid and like he can't move on, and so it's. It's really funny and recommend go watching it.

Speaker 3:

2010 yeah 13 years ago remember, funny and I used to be like like popular, the actual thing, yeah, where there was tons of stuff on it. What do they even do now is Is victory. Are you still watching with this thing in a room? If so, did you find Ralph Machio attractive when you were young?

Speaker 1:

I've never asked her. I don't know if I know she's seen all the karate kids, but or do you have an 80s, 80s crush, 80s person from those popular ladies, oh, oh do you, kyle I? Mean probably Jennifer. Cuddly honestly.

Speaker 3:

It was victory. Did you have a crush on?

Speaker 1:

Ralph.

Speaker 3:

What from karate kid, because we had a discussion about that earlier with jingle bees here. They had a poster of Ralph Machio on the wall, even though they were born way after the movie. Mainly from the outsiders. Not from karate kid, though, from from what I understood you know I also had a huge crush on them.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, this is count as the 80s. I guess Princess Bride came out in the 80s. But Jenny, jenny, what is the cup? What is your name? I? Don't know. What is her name? I'm doing terrible names today, man. It's because Billy's not here.

Speaker 3:

We don't have the.

Speaker 1:

Robin right, robin right, yeah, robin right. I was super into Robin right because of Princess Bride really I I never really found her too attractive.

Speaker 3:

Who did he play? I'm terrible with actors.

Speaker 1:

Uh, daniel, son the, the main character from karate kid and Cobra Kai. Something tells me she was.

Speaker 3:

He pretty much only did those movies and then he like, disappeared from existence until Cobra Kai, these are all 80s heart throbs.

Speaker 1:

Let's see, yeah, woman can't be a heart throb. What is this 20 years ago, geez?

Speaker 3:

Molly Ringwald. Here we go. Here's a good one. You know what I would probably have to say if I had somebody from the 80s? Victory did not like Ralph.

Speaker 1:

No, carrie Fisher, but she's from the 70s and, I guess, 80s. But who didn't have a crush on Princess Leia? I?

Speaker 3:

Didn't shut up, I didn't. I didn't think she's not attractive. You know, I do think the one person that stands out is from Ferris wheelers day off the chick from dirty dancing. Is that what? No, no, no, not the sister, he's a girlfriend. Oh, it's girlfriend. Who played her? I don't know. Oh, boy, whoa. Well, that's not that's not start judging people. That's exactly what we're doing, kyle, we're choosing. She might not be on this list, you know.

Speaker 1:

I don't know who even played.

Speaker 3:

I don't think she was big. That might have been like her only film. I'm not sure. Jennifer Gray is the sister.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's what I thought you're talking about. No, mia Sara Sloan.

Speaker 3:

Peterson, I guess. I don't know if she's been anything. Yeah, I would say that that's the only one that like comes to mind. She was in Time Cop, time Cop. She was in Legend Dean's Stock Birds of Prey. Interesting Big name, big name Harrison Ford, matt Dillon, johnny Depp oh, that's what Jingles Bees were they all 80s.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they were all around. Harrison Ford Specialist Matt Dillon was a team in the 80s. Johnny Depp was in 21 Jump Street in the 80s. True.

Speaker 3:

Huh, did you have any more co?

Speaker 1:

Not really. I've never been a huge like, definitely never had a poster of anyone on my wall. Only poster I ever had on my wall was of Tony Alva.

Speaker 3:

Tony Alva. Who's Tony Alva? I don't know American. Ok, he's a skateboarder.

Speaker 1:

It was one of the OG Z boys, Z boys from the dog town era Not cyberpunk dog town, but Santa Monica dog town. So yeah, I had a Tony Alva poster.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, I had Dragon Ball Z 2008 King Kong. It was just his face, and then a Marvel poster of like all the superheroes. You've probably seen it. It was like the most popular one.

Speaker 1:

Ironically, now I my my bedroom that I share with my wife. I have Marvel posters. I have a Spider-Man poster, marvel poster. I have this huge like splash photo of like all the characters. Oh yeah, I have right now. My room is more nerdy looking now than it was when I was a kid.

Speaker 3:

Because I was, so you have money now.

Speaker 1:

I was so caught up on, like got to look cool and you were skating.

Speaker 3:

I was skating all my time, all my skater friends would have been like what a nerd. I had. Right now I have stitch and then I have some posters sign posters from Lindsay Stirling and Glitch Mob.

Speaker 1:

Nice. The only song I know from Glitch Mob is one that was used in GI Joe.

Speaker 3:

Seven Nation Army White Stripes Remix. Remix. That's officially on Spotify now Down down, down, down, down down. Now they're one of the members left the Glitch Mob, though. Oh really.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I don't know if it would be the same one. What?

Speaker 1:

are you going to do? That's like Freddie Mercury leaving Queen. Okay, kyle, how are they going to find someone to make electronic devices? Wow, I'm just kidding. Wow, I couldn't do it.

Speaker 3:

I think you could, actually we could.

Speaker 1:

If I had the devices, if I had the technology?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I could do it, maybe not the same.

Speaker 1:

My creative brain is not there, though.

Speaker 3:

No, no, there was this. Did you ever play on any of those like music making games On, like Xbox or anything? Yeah. There's this one like called a hamster or something, did you?

Speaker 1:

ever play that? I think so. It's like it's awakening, like something in my memory. Childhood memories.

Speaker 3:

I played that and I had so much fun with that and I made some. You know, to me as a kid they were good. Probably now if I were to go listen they'd probably be gone. You're like, what is this? Yeah, but they're lost forever, those files.

Speaker 1:

They had. Like those Mario games too, we can make music yeah.

Speaker 3:

Hmm, all right, Well, well, the question I wanted to end the night on. This is for chat. As well as you, Kyle, if you had to pick one essential nerd slash geek movie what would it be that you can watch and all others, just that like every nerd has to watch. What is the one essential one? You had to narrow it down, oh man, it's, it's tough.

Speaker 1:

My heart says back to the future.

Speaker 3:

You read my mind, kyle, that's exactly where I'm at.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna say back to future.

Speaker 3:

Jinglebee says Star Wars, see now Star.

Speaker 1:

Wars is so like integral to all of modern.

Speaker 3:

I believe Jinglebee's didn't watch Star Wars originally though.

Speaker 1:

If I'm remembering correctly, you hopped on the bandwagon late Harry Potter victory says see that too for a lot of people Not for me, but I could definitely see that for a lot of people.

Speaker 3:

I think the for my answer of back to the future, the reason that one for me oh, they watched all of Star Wars during COVID Damn.

Speaker 1:

So I have different reasons for like back to future. It's such a childhood memory of mine.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that wasn't mine, I was reading chat.

Speaker 1:

I know, oh, I was saying that's I don't like back to future. Okay, hold on, I love back to future, but I didn't watch it just recently Like yeah, it's like core memories for me.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so like I watched back to the future when I was a kid and that, to me, sparked my passion in like nerd, in like sci-fi, because I used to watch it so much. Kyle, I would get up. We had this fly swatter that was in the shape of guitar. Yeah, I would get up on our coffee table and I would play with Marty when he was doing Johnny, be good. Yeah, I would get, I would get on my knees I guess your kids are ready for it.

Speaker 3:

Are. You guys are ready for that yet, but your kids are going to love it. Either that or Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 1:

I was surprised Lord of the Rings was in first selection I I almost said Lord of the Rings, but back to future holds such a special place in my heart.

Speaker 3:

And especially, I think a lot of it is like, at least for you and me, kyle, I'm going to assume, I'm going to assume your, your thoughts right here is just how essential it was in our childhood. Yeah you know, like to forming our interest because it's a killer movie on top of that.

Speaker 1:

That also is the movie that got me into movie soundtracks. Oh.

Speaker 1:

Alan Sylvester did the score. And it's so iconic when I hear it especially like the music that plays when Doc says he's like. What about all that nonsense of interrupting the timeline where he's like? And I figured what the hell it plays that song in the background that to this day I get a little choked up when I hear that that score. I can't help it. Oh, just because I love. And then Alan Sylvester went on to do Avengers too. It's crazy Every time I hear the power of love, Huey Lewis in the news.

Speaker 3:

It's so good. So we have Star Wars, Harry Potter, Back to the Future and potentially Lord of the Rings, potentially Lord of the Rings. I think those are all. Those are all better than any list we found online.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what was that? What are we reading here?

Speaker 3:

So I wonder Harry Potter?

Speaker 1:

I'm a sucker for Harry Potter. I do like Harry Potter.

Speaker 3:

I love Harry Potter. That is a good. I only watched it once a year because my wife and her family.

Speaker 1:

They do a Harry Potter. It's around.

Speaker 3:

Christmas time yeah.

Speaker 1:

They do a Harry Potter marathon between Christmas and New Year's where they watch all of them. So every year we go to their house and we watch them. It's a good movie, so it's a nice family memory.

Speaker 3:

In Star Wars. Would you choose? Because Harry Potter, all of them. If I watch Harry Potter, I like to watch all of them. Star Wars, I would honestly consider skipping the last three.

Speaker 1:

There's so much Star Wars content, though, too, I know.

Speaker 3:

Well, yeah, you would be impossible to. You can't just do that. It's almost become more than the movie.

Speaker 1:

If I were to if I were to actually pick and choose and watch a Star Wars film like the one I would go to, it's either Empire Strikes Back or Revenge of the Sith I would. Yeah, I do like Phantom Menace, but Empire Strikes Back.

Speaker 3:

probably for me. Yeah, what about you guys chat? What Star Wars film, what Harry Potter film? If I had to choose one Harry Potter film, that's tough.

Speaker 1:

I really like Harry Potter 3,. Prisoner of Ascoboid.

Speaker 3:

Prisoner yes, I like that one.

Speaker 1:

That one's good.

Speaker 3:

It's so unique compared to the rest of them too Serious Black Shoot that might and is that that's the one with Patronus right. Yeah, yeah, that would be mine. Specto Patronus.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so that one, that one's good.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so I would say Empire Strikes Back and Harry Potter 3 for me.

Speaker 1:

That's fair. I agree with that. Back to Future 1? Back to Future 1, then 3, then 2.

Speaker 3:

1, then 3, then 2. It's not a movie, but Clone Wars. What got me into Star Wars? The whole series is good, so the new or the old Well okay, so. Would you?

Speaker 1:

consider the whole the, the. So there's, there's two different, uh, prisoner of Ascoboid, star Wars, clone Wars, which is 2D animation, and that was like old came back Cartoon. Network. Yeah, cartoon Network, that was good, that one's good. The movie Star Wars the Clone Wars wasn't that great, but then the series that spanned off of that Star Wars, the Clone Wars that is phenomenal. That's the 3D one, with Ahsoka yeah the 2D one is actually not the same canon, Didn't the? Did the 2D have Ahsoka?

Speaker 1:

No the 2D one got decanonized when they came out with the Clone Wars. It's, it's weird, it's hard to keep up, but but Star Wars, the Clone Wars with Ahsoka and all that, that, that one's really good, that one is really good. So if we're not talking about movies, that's yeah, that's uh.

Speaker 3:

I would have to favorite that too actually. But that's a whole series, you know. It's really see the thing with Star Wars that's so hard is. It's like Star Wars became more than a movie in my mind, like the reason I love Star Wars isn't because of any specific, it's a universe, yeah it's a universe, it's, it's bigger no.

Speaker 1:

It's bigger, all right. My favorite Star Wars content is actually takes place 4,000 years before the Republic Knights of the Old Republic, kotor Kotor.

Speaker 3:

The best Because, like my favorite thing about Star Wars is the potential and I think that's a, you know, a big attraction of it is like the universe is so cool. Yeah. And just anything like yeah, the Clone Wars was amazing, but for me it's more of like I wish I was a Jedi, Rather than I can watch Harry Potter, and I'm not. I'm not like I want to be Harry Potter and I'm like look at that kid, look at that boy. But Star Wars I'm like man, I wish I was a Jedi. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Agreed. Well, we have reached one hour 56 minutes. We could push it for more minutes and get two hours. I don't have it in me, you don't have it in you. I'm only one man, he's only one man, and we don't have Bill here to talk and I didn't do enough hand movements and slamming.

Speaker 1:

He brings the energy, that's for sure.

Speaker 3:

And did you?

Speaker 1:

notice, our audio never went out. Yeah, it's because he wasn't. He's not here to slap it, he says it's not him, but interesting.

Speaker 3:

Interesting, that's all I'll say as well. But where can they find us, Kyle? Oh don't put this on me? No, they can find us on. Instagram, youtube, spotify, any major podcast listening platform where you listen to the podcast, as well as YouTube, where you're hopefully watching us right now under the Katie ratio podcast. That was good, yeah, appreciate it and remember all what. Do we have a name for our fans? Yeah, no like the ratios.

Speaker 1:

That was I thought you were going to say like the racists, like I was like where are you going with this?

Speaker 3:

The, the assists. Get ratio, get, ratio, assists, the assists. I don't know what's, what's a good fan, the killed death.

Speaker 1:

The kids? There is no. The Katie's, you know what? There is none.

Speaker 3:

There is none. There's no fans. No, no End it All right. Well, remember guys, with a good Katie you get the dub.

Speaker 1:

My Jesus Christ Dylan Got to end this quick.

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