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Wonder how you'll ever keep up with all the game reveals at Games Con? Fear not, we've got you covered! We dive headfirst into the whirlpool of new releases, from Stardew Valley Copy to Janitor Appearing into Someone's Hole, Bullet Storm VR, and Mortal Kombat. We don't stop there though; we open up discussions on the intriguing worlds of side-scrolling and VR games, and the potential they harbor to revolutionize the gaming world. Plus, we ponder the importance of genuine indie games in today's gaming scene.
Cyberpunk 2.0, anyone? We couldn't help but get chatty about this exciting announcement and what it implies. But what about the cancelled multiplayer version? We'll tackle that too! Our conversation then takes a nostalgic turn as we reminisce about iconic reveals such as Skyrim and the surprise that was the God of War reboot. The evolution of gaming since E3 certainly has us feeling a certain way!
Finally, we take a detour from gaming and step into the intriguing world of history and ancestry. The stories we share about our own family lineages might just motivate you to dig into your own! Ever wonder how tools like 23andMe have the power to reconnect lost relatives? We’ve got some real-life experiences to share with you. So, grab your headphones and settle down, you're in for a treat!
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All right, hello and welcome to the KD ratio podcast live stream how we doing tonight.
Speaker 2Jeff the gentleman great, super good, gentlemen happy doing great, doing Wow.
Speaker 1I need you off camera. We don't want to look at your beautiful face today. Today we're gonna be going over games con that was happening today. We have found a little clip from well, I guess a synopsis from IGN that we want to watch with you guys. Ten minutes I'm gonna go through every single reveal.
Speaker 3So we're like actually going right now. I should probably not Look like I'm falling asleep over here, yeah.
Speaker 1I would hope not All right, I'll try it. I'll try.
Speaker 3this was a test, I thought it was a test run until just now, but I'm ready.
Speaker 1Wake up, kyle, wake up.
Speaker 2I just pissed the bed. Wake up, mommy, all right, I.
Speaker 1Hope they can hear that. I think they did, so they can hear this audio for sure, turn it down.
Speaker 2But yeah, to be honest, when we first watched it I didn't even know that was game. I thought it was just like the intro to the video.
Speaker 1I Won't look all right, I don't see this one looks interesting to me. Do you not like side-scolars? No, no. It limits the I Don't know. It limits what you can do in terms of gameplay.
Speaker 2I don't think so I Think it. It's a good formula when it works. I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1A lot of, but it has to work, yeah, vr.
Speaker 2Yeah, not interested.
Speaker 1And especially this one is bullet storm, which was like I Don't think it was successful at all I Don't think, I don't know what it's gonna take for VR to like really take off, but it isn't that.
Speaker 2We have some Stardew Valley copy. I think it's I don't know.
Speaker 1It's got to like be sold as like an attachment for a console, like it has to just be that accessible. I don't think they can exist as their own console.
Speaker 2I know there's a market now but they do have the attachment for the PlayStation PS VR.
Speaker 1That's what I'm saying. I think it's gonna need to be that, but like just way up, because the VR community Like they have way better devices out there, so we got a janitor Appearing into someone's hole. I.
Speaker 2Don't know not, not hyped about anything yet.
Speaker 1Right, fucking here. This looks fun. Actually I would play this. It depends on if it. If I have to control three different persons, I don't not interested. But they're really hard to war hammer games. So I don't know if I'm gonna play this game. I don't know if I'm gonna play this game, I don't know. Pre-alpha footage why even show us?
Speaker 2Unless it's like a true, true indie, but got some type of space game here, probably a real time strategy, I'm imagine. Homeworld that looks like Starfield. Yeah, um, it is a hundred percent, 100, 100%. Sure, are you excited for that game at all, billy?
Speaker 1I might be. I really need to see it. It's not day one release for me. No, that look like what was that? That look like a little it takes to right here.
Speaker 2It's a little nightmares, okay.
Speaker 1That was the three.
Speaker 2Yeah, you guys never heard of the first.
Speaker 1I have this. You're saying this is the same game.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's a little nightmares, oh.
Speaker 1God, that's pretty scary. Did I get co-op?
Speaker 3Oh.
Speaker 1It looks like that one is, yeah, the original for my recollection was just one it's a wo long DLC, woo Kong that's black myth, woo Kong.
Speaker 2Yeah, the other game with the sim learning. Huh.
Speaker 3That looks like doom, some kind of doom ripoff. Killing three killing floor was fun. Did you guys ever play that? I'll play the first one. I don't play second.
Speaker 1You guys like these kind of games never, liked.
Speaker 2These kind of games. I liked the one there was civilization revolution.
Speaker 3I did play shit out of Age of Empires too.
Speaker 1Okay, let's talk about this. This is Rebel Moon. It's positive for a second. This is Rebel Moon.
Speaker 2Yeah, so this is Zach Snyder's new Almost Star.
Speaker 3Wars that literally the story goes, is. He made this as a Star Wars film. Disney didn't like it because it was too violent, too violent, so he tweaked it and Netflix bought it. It was the whole thing, but it looks fun.
Speaker 2I think it looks good. Yeah, I mean it's got. It's got a bunch of good actors, it's got Charlie on him, it's got Raymond Juan G, anthony Hopkins, anthony.
Speaker 3I almost like that.
Speaker 1It's set in sort of like a Star Wars universe.
Speaker 3But but it has the freedom to do whatever it wants, not the.
Speaker 1Disney attachment what?
Speaker 3is he Netflix? Is it gonna be rated R?
Speaker 1Oh, it has to be right.
Speaker 2the other one was rated R Um the other rebel moon, no, the zombie one. I was like there's another one, the other one, the one on Netflix, the other Zach Snyder, the zombie one. Yeah, but that was with.
Speaker 1Dave Patista. Oh the doom. What the hell is that? Cole, I know what you're talking about, though they made two of them right, there's a second one he did the original Don of the Dead? No, not that it's.
Speaker 2It was newer. Came out after Zach Snyder's Justice League, and they're in Vegas.
Speaker 1Yeah, and it's like a they have to extract Mm-hmm and he gets hired to be like the Merc that goes in.
Speaker 2And yeah, it's the money and then the zombies like have, like a culture. Yeah, and there's a queen and a king and the. Queen gets killed.
Speaker 3So I wasn't saying that, though I said he did Don of the Dead in 2000, like 20 years ago.
Speaker 2I Was just saying no, it's not 2004.
Speaker 3He did Don of the Dead and so I thought, I always thought that army the dead was a sequel to Don of the Dead. I don't believe so. I've never seen it.
Speaker 1I think they relate. They might be related. I don't?
Speaker 3it's a similar name, but this one's but. If you're telling me there's like a Hierarchy and the zombies, and that's nothing like Don of the Dead.
Speaker 2Yeah, but like they're smart and it's kind of strange, it was already.
Speaker 3Rebel moon looks good though.
Speaker 1Okay, what's up?
Speaker 2I, I look interesting. Huh, I Didn't even crimson something.
Speaker 1Yeah, sorry, I'm overshooters. Payday 83, not gonna do it for battle.
Speaker 2Oh, I can't wait for sass oh.
Speaker 1Look at how they be.
Speaker 3They were like wow, saying that it's gonna take it back to its roots. And then one of the things they showed was like you could teleport, yeah, it's like, how is that back to its roots? It's nothing like the original game.
Speaker 1But okay, that's how good you've gotten at being in the sass.
Speaker 3Teleport. Remember when it's you could teleport body to body made total sense.
Speaker 2Soul caliber Tekken. Yeah.
Speaker 3Tekken 8 man Warzone siege no call duty that looked like the Colosseum and warzone.
Speaker 1Yeah for dance. We're saying whatever scene, modern, oh three, oh, this is no, man sky.
Speaker 3No, no. What is the?
Speaker 2that looks so much like no man it does but those.
Speaker 3What is the outfits these people are wearing was nightingale what.
Speaker 1Yes, a lot of visual artifacts going on. I like it. You do look pretty colored. No, but I have heard good things about.
Speaker 2Grandblue. So that one I will keep an eye on, just because I have heard good things about that franchise before.
Speaker 1Oh, this is um, I'm actually. This one looks interesting, the combat does mortals avian. I'll see a lot of casting in that looks like Ghostwire Tokyo this no, no, mortals of avium Z.
Speaker 2I that trailer just showed nothing.
Speaker 3Yeah, what are we getting? This is the same game.
Speaker 1No, this is another one bright lights Genshin impact. This looks good. Is that this large?
Speaker 3look on.
Speaker 1No way.
Speaker 3Potentially. I need to see yes, it is Sonic going back to, yeah, going back to the roots, except you could tell they always go back to the roots and it never fail. When they did good, when they went into the 3d open world.
Speaker 2I somehow I don't get it everybody. So is this frontiers to? Oh, it's free update Okay.
Speaker 3Shouldn't all updates be free? I'm just Huh first descendant I.
Speaker 2I'm only interested in this one because I like subnautica and I was gonna say this looks like subnautica yeah.
Speaker 1I can't stand water combat, so Dismass effect work yeah.
Speaker 2They just revealed it at games con, but I'm casually mean I haven't talked about it at all.
Speaker 1We don't care. When is that ever coming?
Speaker 2out they still. It's only just a teaser, couple years probably.
Speaker 1You guys into driving games.
Speaker 3Only if there's more to do than just drive. Yeah like, oh, there we go.
Speaker 1If there's a family you can have, like this cyberpunk you drive and you kill.
Speaker 3I'm so hyped that the trail, the real trailer, is so much longer and better than that, but I feel like it. As a person that's been a loyal follower through all the trials and tribulations, I'm glad that we're getting some real content for it and it comes out the same day as the expansion, right, yeah, so you get a ton of content.
Speaker 1Yeah, we understand this. This is not next.
Speaker 3No, it is an expansion.
Speaker 2What he means is they're also reworking the base game, so this trailer specifically was for the, just the base game update, which is like adding new features, new skill tree, new, like a whole bunch of stuff, and so it releases on the same day as the Expansion not only is the game that I feel new, but like you're going to have entirely new expansion to explore exactly so, like people who haven't played yet, might as well just wait for the 26 because it's free.
Speaker 3I mean, well, it's not free, you got paid by the game update is, but if you bought the original game. The Cyberpunk, like 2.0 is it's free. It just doesn't include the expansions paid.
Speaker 1But did they ever do a multiplayer?
Speaker 3No, it was in the works in the very beginning, but they scrapped that after all.
Speaker 1Really, they even didn't they double down to commit. They even said they were gonna commit to that, like for sure, not, no, no, they canceled that pretty quick.
Speaker 3They said they were committed to fixing the game. Yeah, they actually canceled the multiplayer like really quick, as soon as they were like Basically they're like we're not gonna waste our time with this, which I think was a good move on their part, because I would have distracted from like trying to make the game what they wanted it to be and so that they haven't said they'll have a multi-play, they might have a multiplayer in the next one, but they they pretty much gave up on that a couple years ago.
Speaker 2Yeah, and I mean I'm not. That's fine for a multiplayer.
Speaker 3Well, I mean, it would just be like GTA.
Speaker 2Yeah, you just role play.
Speaker 3Yeah, go into bars doing gigs Like pretty much, yeah, just getting gigs of the afterlife, robin banks, like it's the same thing as GTA.
Speaker 2I bet red CD project. I'd heard that they're like dollar signs.
Speaker 1Yeah, did that market is so I was gonna say it's so one-sided, but it actually really isn't. There's like VR chat a lot of those types of games that's just. People love to hang out and I.
Speaker 5Could see night city around.
Speaker 1I could see night city being that, but it's might be a little too edgy Like GTA is like real world cyberpunk might be too like, I think it even be better because it is fantasy, so you can get some real role players in there that like my name's Skrags.
Speaker 2I'm a hardened cop, you know, rather than I tried to recreate myself in GTA.
Speaker 1Yeah, but there's like people who like just want to play a cop and drive around GTA like pull people, I'm sure, like in the fictional multiplayer Traumatune it's not too. It's not about realism, though it's like I don't know. I feel like that might break it for some people. I Discrete, I think there'd be a community, but I wouldn't rival.
Speaker 3It would not know, not even close. I'm with you. I'm with you like 70%. I'm with Dylan like 30%. But, that means. What it means is I'm actually with. What it means is I agree with you up to about 30%, and that 30% is roughly like what?
Speaker 1three out of ten? Yeah, yeah okay. Wow.
Speaker 2But you don't understand about that.
Speaker 3I just wanted Clarification he's just mad cuz normally. I'm on his side versus you, that's right.
Speaker 1How's it feel Bad. This looks like you got your.
Speaker 2Starcraft who.
Speaker 4I called it Do you know what like a oh no, I'm gate Do you know starcraft.
Speaker 1Do you know what, how many actions per minute the Like the top top players of Starcraft are able to accomplish?
Speaker 2like action if I were to guess 25.
Speaker 3I have no clue. Guess 350, holy 25, did you suck?
Speaker 2So like? What do you mean by actions? Like commands, commands and like wow like directives. How did they do that?
Speaker 1That's hot keys. A lot of macros, I'm sure, but yeah, no, it's. It's insane. Wow, they're pros. It is when you watch people play Starcraft like at the pro level. You don't even understand what's happening. They are going ham, ham. This looks fun.
Speaker 2It looks like Diablo again.
Speaker 1Just so because it's top-down fixed camera and then you're like casting stuff just immediately Diablo.
Speaker 3Well, you describe three out of like the five things of Diablo.
Speaker 1Yeah, this is the seasonal content Epic.
Speaker 3E-podge.
Speaker 1What's that pull? Snap. Go straight on your phone, give us monies. Armour core.
Speaker 3Coming out here. That's the same trailer. It's already been released, so.
Speaker 2They just have to remind you. It comes out like in a couple days, what is?
Speaker 3this. I'll check it out, for sure this oh, it's just that, online no this is Elden Rings new DLC. Yeah, war haven.
Speaker 1Play for free. I like that.
Speaker 3Mortal.
Speaker 1Kombat not interested.
Speaker 3Hey, I'm excited. I'm so excited for Mortal Kombat.
Speaker 2Who's that? Is that an old character, kyle?
Speaker 3Yeah, it's like tar, it's like Ken Ken, no, not Kentaro. God, what is? He was first century, just Mortal Kombat 2, though, way back in the day, oh.
Speaker 2Look, diablo again.
Speaker 3Oh look, another sequel to the Guys. They all look so similar yeah that's actually so.
Speaker 1This is their season two. So we don't really actually know anything other than that.
Speaker 3Interesting Porter lands esk type dustborn.
Speaker 2Absolutely playing this this that looks like I would hate it. Alan Wake, I am really excited for that one. Did you any of you play the first sound like mm-hmm. Yeah, I.
Speaker 3Never beat it, though.
Speaker 2No, no, I got bored, I'm not gonna lie so the reason I beat it and Like got so into it was I played it with my friend Malachi and so you know he had like the audience and then, after I played it, somehow I got the book and I read the book and the book is so good, added lore.
Speaker 3Yeah, I Changed it for you.
Speaker 2So I'm excited for that, because they it was a huge cliffhanger at the end of that first game, and I want to see how they resolve it. I barely remember it, though, because it's been so long.
Speaker 3When the first one come out like over 10 years ago, like 2011?
Speaker 2No, it was. I think it was like 2008. If I was to guess, I was a while ahead for sure, motaro is the centaur.
Speaker 3Motaro, yeah, not Ken Taro's the the four-handed, like Leopard-looking one. Oh, okay, yeah, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1So what got you most hyped for games? From games for me, I know it's gonna be the next couple days is just opening night, but I feel like a lot was announced for me right now.
Speaker 2I mean, I Would say I'm like I am excited for Starfield and Armored core, but Alan Wake is one that I know. I had fun with the previous Alan Wake and I do like all the games by it's remedy right. Yeah, I do like all the remedy games, so that's the one I'm looking forward to the most out of the ones we just saw here, I'd say I.
Speaker 1Always find it interesting that how popular these things are like I forget how big gaming is yeah.
Speaker 1I was watching the stream. I barely, I barely saw it on and I just ended up really watching this reclip with you guys, but I I saw the numbers of how many people are watching. It was like 140,000, and I don't even think it was during, like the peak reveals. 140,000 just on their main channel. Ign was recasting it and they had over 40,000. That's just on YouTube. Like I know, they were streaming this on Twitch, which probably had double those numbers at least. So you're talking like a million people live streaming this during, like the middle of a Tuesday.
Speaker 1I was there Right and then they have like this actual show that people go to, like our convention and stuff it's. It's fantastically huge. It's really impressive to me that it that this many people are excited about gaming like on a regular basis, like there's that much demand to just say, hey, we're not gonna. There's not even. I guess maybe if you really were dialed into a certain game, you might know that they had a trailer at at games con, but people are really just attuning in to see what's what's next.
Speaker 2Well, I think it's kind of wow. A lot of the time, too, people don't. They have theories that it might be a games con. Most of the time they keep all those trailers and reveal secret. Yeah, because, like Well, what was the one with the most recent spider-man one Kyle trailer? That state of play.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2People had no clue. They they thought that Sony was gonna show it off, but then you know, they had no clue until the very end of like yeah, that's the whole point, those they want to keep you interested.
Speaker 3You have to watch all the crap games first, yeah, and then sometimes you watch a like a whole thing and it's nothing but terrible games. And then you're like waiting for the big reveal, and they're like, well, that's it for this year. And you're like, alright, do you?
Speaker 2remember, to me at least it used to be a lot more Exciting when, like, e3 was around wait.
Speaker 3Yeah, e3 is not even thing anymore and I feel like E3 was like way more hype back in the day. But a part of that has to do with, like, the lack of internet coverage. Everything was like on g4. Well, yeah and like, so you had to like tune into g4 now you can live stream anywhere. Yeah, and so that's like that's part of it, I feel like cuz, like I still to this day.
Speaker 2I remember it was After school ended. It was pretty close to right after school ended. I would if E3 would be like starting, and so I'd always look forward to that, watching it. No, and then the biggest reveal. What's the biggest reveal? You guys remember that like made you hype and E3.
Speaker 3Yeah, I have to remember what like actually revealed at E3 versus other conferences.
Speaker 1Yeah, I wouldn't even know, like I couldn't even nail it down to just E3.
Speaker 3I remember I mean nothing. I don't know if those revealed at E3, but nothing beat Skyrim's first reveal back. I was like maybe 14 when they first revealed it and no, it was like 15 because it came out when I was like 16, but I Remember that was super hype when that. Everyone saw that coming. But like I said, I don't I don't remember if that came with. That was revealed E3 or probably what about you, skyrim?
Speaker 2I again I'm gonna hop on cause bandwagon. I don't remember if this was specifically E3. I think it is like I get a vision in my head that it was God of War 2018, because up into that point I thought, you know, most people thought the franchise was dead. Yeah, and then all of a sudden you hear like the classic music start playing. You're like no the boy, oh, no, no, it's Kratos.
Speaker 1What if their next? Because they pretty much end of the series, right. No, no so go on there, keep going.
Speaker 3Yeah, they're done with the Norse, the right and they're gonna move to different.
Speaker 2They said Norse. This finish the Norse saga.
Speaker 1Um, what if they flip the whole thing on its head and just like goddess of war and you follow like Someone, like one of the female warriors, like they didn't really set up for it?
Speaker 3I know what so what if it was like you know?
Speaker 2could they get that your anger Bota?
Speaker 3Like what, if you know, what? If it was like years and years later, and it's like granddaughter of yeah, that'd be kind of weird.
Speaker 2I wouldn't like that. I wouldn't want them to skip. I'd be fine playing a girl, but I'd be fine if it was a spinoff.
Speaker 3If they did a spin-off series, but it had nothing to do with the mainline series. Sure, that's fine, then it's just.
Speaker 2It could be anything it wants, true, but I I don't like one game skip like that, because then they like lock themselves in To the future.
Speaker 3That's what I mean, if it's a spin-off, it has nothing to do with. They could still have the main series. Do it still lock them?
Speaker 1multiverse.
Speaker 3It's a new, it's a different dimension, dimension.
Speaker 2I don't think you'd be locked in. I well like, as far as like events need to happen a certain way.
Speaker 3Yeah, you can have like a game set in the future that there could be all kinds of story not told and Just be acceptable though. Yeah, I guess they're not gonna do that. So, there's not really any point speculating.
Speaker 1I just was asking, like how wild can they take the series from now? I?
Speaker 3mean no, you've started something. Oh, so you?
Speaker 1need to end it. I don't know if I've ever seen like a trailer.
Speaker 3You gotta end it.
Speaker 2Okay, cool, Okay I.
Speaker 1Don't know if I've ever seen like a trailer and been like this is the greatest Comic-con of all maybe more film actually than then games. But Guild Wars, dude. I played Guild Wars after launch.
Speaker 2Well, like Guild Wars 2.
Speaker 1When you saw the trailer, I was in Disney World at the time when it when they first announced so he was happy. And I remember I was happy for 15 seconds and then I saw the release date and it was the first day of college, or the first day of my sophomore year in college. I was so disappointed because I had an entire summer to just sit there and wait, and then the fucking moment I go back is when it goes on. It's just how life works.
Speaker 3Oh my god, take it up with them.
Speaker 1Yeah, I know, I did you have a grievance, I did, I only put only put 3,000 hours into this game.
Speaker 3You would have got seven out of me.
Speaker 5Decided to reduce it late.
Speaker 1I would have had a thousand hours in that game by month. Three guaranteed Dude. There's no way. At that point in my life, dude, I had nothing going on.
Speaker 3This is working. I used to get way more hyped for simple games back in the day, though. Like now it's like once in a blue moon where like a release is like oh my god. But like back in the day, you know, I would get a release from like Even like every Call of Duty that was announced. Oh, holy shit. Well, I'm an M's in the trailer. It's gonna be fucking amazing. I I was like Assassin's Creed.
Speaker 2Yeah, I want to attribute that to like just the constant regurgitation of the same Right back then those were new, like Call of Duty 3 was the first call, you know, like that was actually Call of Duty 3, not 3. Remaster, remake, new multiverse I.
Speaker 3Remember one of the remix, the hypest trailer. Well, ubisoft, always they do well with trailers, cinematic trailers, the cinematic trailers are always really good, but all their Assassin's Creed cinematic trailers were always so fucking good.
Speaker 2Assassin's Creed 3 that statue the Patriot, Basically you know what.
Speaker 1The best trailer, though, of all time. What I got? 99 problems.
Speaker 5Battlefield 3.
Speaker 3Battlefield 3 had some pretty dope trailers. To be fair, I Still go back and watch some of the promotional material for Battlefield 3 because it's such a nostalgic time in gaming. But we waited up. They said new trailer dropping tonight at midnight. All right, and we? We read this at like one o'clock in the afternoon. They said tonight at midnight, new trailer dropping. We waited up so hyped. We were so hyped for it. The trailer was like 17 seconds long and it was Jay-Z saying I got 99 problems with a bitch. Hey what.
Speaker 1Maybe three seconds of new footage I.
Speaker 3Still remember like there was a brief moment where we were like in disbelief, we both looked at each other and Billy goes well, this the way he said. It was so like I was so sad.
Speaker 1It was like, yeah, like you said, 17 seconds long, and then it was maybe three seconds of new footage and and the outro was longer than that.
Speaker 5I got 99 problems.
Speaker 3But that was after they dropped, like the, there was like a 17 minute gameplay. Yeah so we're like they just dropped this one. They're gonna drop now Jay-Z. We're both like what to?
Speaker 1be fair, though, that game ended up being awesome.
Historical Hype and Gaming Criticism
Speaker 3That I feel. Three is great. Some people say battlefield 4 was like the last great one. But battlefield 4 was kind of rough to I'd launch. Battlefield 3 was the last one. That was like Pretty good at out for me personally, that was like the prime battlefield. I don't think they've ever really captured that sense.
Speaker 1my I have a very good track record of like Well-placed hype 2042. Was I.
Speaker 2Didn't but you arrived we were all, so I played. I Dreams. What I mean is what I mean.
Speaker 1My like well-placed is like games that I ultimately bought and like played actually played at launch.
Speaker 2Okay, I was backtracking to cover the mistake that we caught what, what, what did you catch?
Speaker 3You being a dip.
Speaker 1I was hyped for their hazard mode or whatever they're like their battle royale was, but it was absolute trash. Yeah, that game sucks so bad. Anyway, the but, like Diablo 4, was a lot of fun at at launch. We had great time there, did we?
Speaker 2I'm joking.
Speaker 1I was like, at least we had fun.
Speaker 2I know I was joking I.
Speaker 3I never actually was high for that game.
Speaker 2I know we tried to get him hyped. Oh he we, I bought it and I bought it.
Speaker 1He bought the early release version to play with you guys.
Speaker 3I know I didn't ring, I don't want to left out Elden ring.
Speaker 1I was insanely high for played at launch.
Speaker 3Were you, I feel like you were. You were like kind of high. Of I was hyped, yeah, but like you'd never really were that hyped. And then you even at first you were kind of like meh, but then after like six hours you're like this is the greatest game of all time.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't remember yet you maybe you might be right, like where I wasn't like shouting from the roof. You weren't shitting on it, but you were like just cautiously optimistic, but I for me to buy a game on launch day. That's a pretty big, big deal.
Speaker 3The reviews came out, that too, and it was like overwhelmingly positive by players and critics, and by all accounts, pc was running good enough. Yeah, all you can ask for these.
Speaker 2Fucking send it. You always try and get us to get PC.
Speaker 1But yeah, because fucking gaming manufacturers suck go indie.
Speaker 2Yeah, so I want to play gaming manufacturers games. I.
Speaker 3I got to play on console.
Speaker 1Exactly what exactly would a console boy would say Console boy Spell printing the merch.
Speaker 3BOI Console, boy Eww.
Speaker 2Eww, eww, eww BOI.
Speaker 3Boy Eww He'll gross you, to say it. I don't. I mean you're not the kind of guy that gets super hyped, though in general, like if you're just kind of casually excited for something, I consider that hype for you, but you're not like, like, I feel like I, maybe Dylan and I get sucked into hype trains way hard than we do Cyberpunk Me and Kyle were like oof.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's a that's a livery for me.
Speaker 1I think maybe like film does that for me I get really excited for moves, Like I was really excited for Oppenheimer.
Speaker 3Well, yeah like in anything Marvel, I mean anybody who's ever listened to our podcast?
Speaker 1It might have to do with, like, I play the game to really get into the gameplay and I think for you guys, you're really getting into it to experience the story and so you're really looking forward to that next chapter of what happened. What's gonna happen, what are we gonna do, how are we gonna fight this big bad or whatever? So I think that might like lead you to be a lot better. Versus me. I just see like oh cool, I can hit left shift and swipe attack.
Speaker 3I don't know I like these mechanics. Oh, look at that combat.
Speaker 2That looks fun. It's Diablo. The combat does look fun. Combat copy and pasted it to four other games.
Speaker 3That's just the genre, that's like seeing any shooter, it's. Arpg right Calling it Call of Duty, yeah.
Speaker 1I could. I could make fun of any narrative they're saying it. Look at this story. It's gotta be getting middle and end the fucking lame what is this the 90s?
Speaker 5Oh, look at this plot twist. It's so average, so predictable. You'd have a plot twist. I call that plot twist. That would be the weirdest way to look at games.
Speaker 3You were the bad guy all along. Oh, surprise, surprise, typical, go back to 2003 nights at the old republic.
Speaker 1Just be like citing the original game that ever had a plot twist.
Speaker 5It's a rip off of that. What was that? Or the first RPG that we looked at, the very like the one that was like straight up text. It wasn't even a text based RPG on PC.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2It's ripping that game off, I swear. First RPG Dungeons and Dragons.
Speaker 1Look up video game RPG.
Speaker 3Well, you could even say RPGs didn't use to only be video games. It was.
Speaker 2They're all rip off of Dungeons and Dragons.
Speaker 3Dungeon.
Speaker 2Dungeon.
Speaker 3It's literally called Dungeon 1975. This game is a rip off of Dungeon.
Speaker 2And it's a rip off of D&D, which is a rip off of.
Speaker 3D&D, which is a rip off of Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 2Which is a rip off of.
Speaker 1Narrative which is a rip off of.
Speaker 2Shakespeare, which is a rip off of Homer. Which is a rip off of the Bible, aliens.
Speaker 3Homer. When did the Homer? What was he like? Homer, what was? His works done Like Along Along. The reason I'm asking is like the Bible. I guess in theory you know they were probably A century.
Speaker 1BC, so it's actually before the Bible. That's older than the Bible. Pretty wild.
Speaker 3I mean I don't want to get religious. That's the heroes.
Speaker 1That's crazy.
Speaker 3Don't they say Odyssey is like the first Epic right.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3The first ever epic.
Speaker 2It's the Well. Gilgamesh is the first hero's journey.
Speaker 3It's the first hero's journey, technically, I think.
Speaker 2But Odyssey is also a hero's journey.
Speaker 3These weren't even like books either. They were like long form.
Speaker 2Poetry Stories right Like you, tell them out loud.
Speaker 3Yeah, like they were recounted.
Speaker 2Like. That's why, like Gilgamesh is so interesting to read, because it's like this is what we think it was. But we don't know the original because it was passed down. It's verbally until somebody decided to write it down 1830. Bc. Wow, holy shit, did you guys ever read Gilgamesh?
Speaker 3Only the Sparks version. Oh, so I see.
Speaker 2You forgot to read, absolutely.
Speaker 1In school I would have to like digest a couple things for it to slowly come back. But yeah, I remember studying about it. But you're talking about, I mean, ancient, ancient shit, yeah 3000.
Speaker 3BC is when he reigned 1830 was a long time ago, so I don't remember it per se, but I did read it when it came out.
Speaker 5Thank you, were you hyped for it. I was so. Gilgamesh is about to drop an epic.
Speaker 3It delivers.
Speaker 5Holy fuck, I can't even fucking read.
Speaker 2Gilgamesh. Do we even know who the author was? Probably not.
Speaker 1Huh, I don't think it was a Babylonian. Some guy probably killed some guy and then just claimed I wrote this.
Speaker 3That's what we have. You go back a couple thousand years and it's a bit iffy to trust anything.
Speaker 2Gilgamesh was a real person and the story is about him.
Speaker 3It's a fictional Gilgamesh ruled in 3000.
Speaker 1It says right there but then the book came out like a thousand years later.
Speaker 3Which I mean relatively speaking.
Speaker 1It's like yeah, I'm like, I'm trying to compare. I don't even know what happened in one, that the year one, so that's Wow. Isn't it kind of wild how we have like certain, there's certain centuries where there's like seemingly a lot of stuff that happened, and then there's like centuries where you're like I couldn't like 1400s. Europe and stuff starts kind of, at least from an American's perspective. That's when it starts picking up, like the French start sending explorers, america gets discovered, if that's what you want to call it.
Speaker 3One of the biggest myths is that there's been only one dark age. There's been a bunch of Well, that's what that's what I'm saying. There's an ages.
Speaker 1One war can and like the burning of books can, like wipe out an entire history yeah. An entire timeline. You lose all of it?
Speaker 3Didn't we talk about a lot of weird things to think about timeline wise before, where it's like Cleopatra is closer in time to us than she was to the pyramids building of the pyramids Like that's how, that's how wide the ancient Egypt's like empire was, like their timeline.
Speaker 2It's crazy.
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Speaker 1Good, it is insane. I'm just pulling up like a timeline of like the world I want to see. I just want like a basic one.
Speaker 3Absorb the knowledge. History is my favorite subject. I love history. Yeah, too bad, you can't. I can't work at a museum, I guess.
Speaker 2You could be like Ben Stiller.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2I know Talk to statues. Yeah, that's a real job.
Speaker 3You didn't know that. Where do I apply? The New York? The New York, the city of New York? Yeah, let me call them up Like hey, you got any of those Ben Stiller jobs, the ones where I can talk to? Second, to it's Chicago. We are so God got we are, isn't it Chicago way? I mean probably, we're probably being terrible people right now and pronouncing it wrong.
Speaker 1Probably that makes us terrible people.
Speaker 3Yeah, how would you feel if someone pronounced your name?
Speaker 1Five thousand years after we. That is almost too good now. I just said five thousand years ago.
Speaker 3That's like a hundred years ago.
Speaker 1Is literally during Lewis and Clark.
Speaker 3I know which was like which was Thirty After the Louisiana purchase, and they were just mapping out the West like eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 2What?
Speaker 1was it? Was it maybe 1830s?
Speaker 3Let's see it's 18. It's definitely 1800s, because 1730 America wasn't even founded yet 1776 was yeah, america yeah.
Speaker 1I thought, 1860.
Speaker 2Okay, 1804 to 1808.
Speaker 1Their expeditions started in 1806. The reason I thought it happened like right around, like before the, before we formed a whole country.
Speaker 3It was during Thomas Jefferson's presidency, because he's the one that did the Louisiana purchase, so he bought it for an insane like a penny something crazy because nobody from France.
Speaker 1I think right.
Speaker 3Which I forget where, but they didn't even, it wasn't even really like their right to sell, but you know how it?
Speaker 2works.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's kind of. It is kind of interesting where the Lewis and Clark expedition.
Speaker 3I mean, it's been dramatized so many times, but that's such an interesting like story.
Speaker 1Dude, can you imagine, just like I'm gonna go, that they drew it like really accurately to two guys in a crew and Rolls Royce air condition? Yeah, and they drove across America. Best cross 80 right.
Speaker 3They're the ones that founded all the freeways that we drive to this day they had stop lights. It's incredible. It brings a tear to your eye. Actually, kyle, you should have been a history teacher. If I was ever like a professor, I would do that every now and then, just to see if they're listening to me they're paying attention yeah.
Speaker 3And then just be like, and they're like we're gonna have a pop quiz on this to pay attention, and then say something just wild and see who would call me out on it. They'd be like what a professor. I don't remember there being cars. Well you're not the teacher are you, do you have a degree yet? No, I didn't think so. I got a master's. All right, I got a PhD world.
Speaker 1But like I look, so I just pulled up a random century, one thousand eleven hundred eighty, okay, so a hundred year span, and obviously this is like a super high level, but it's basically like all the shit that you could gut check, like kings taking over and conquering other lands and you know, the Byzantine emperor, like you know, was poisoning by her husband showy you know the Romans, like the first crusades, like states began. It's kind of like this is William the conqueror, my uncle? No, we Be we the conqueror.
Speaker 1Be we the conqueror. Be we the conqueror.
Speaker 5We, we, we, we, we, we will we will we on the conqueror.
Speaker 1You don't have this magic, the fucking. What is the name of that movie with the princess bro, no, no, no, no no they do the jousting, and it's with Heath Ledger night. I wanted to say that but I thought it was wrong where he just like grabs it and at the end he just is yelling William like we will, we will, we will, we will.
Speaker 3Oh man, talk about a banger movie.
Speaker 1I fuck. I love that movie so much. It's so good, it's funny, it's funny, it's heartfelt.
Speaker 3Yes, it's good action, like good music. Beautiful women doesn't take itself too seriously. Good women, beautiful, beautiful women. Good women. That's what you said. Good women, it's like, all right, they're right there Good women that's one take Back when women you know did it right. Yeah, medieval times.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3I would just love to go back to the dark ages.
Speaker 1Absolutely. I wouldn't make it dude. No AC, I'm done. I would literally live in in Antarctica. It depends on, I mean, how you were born.
Speaker 3Yeah, you'd adjust.
Speaker 1They know adjusting. Yeah, I'd be bitching.
Speaker 5One day. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1You know AC blowing in my face.
Speaker 3You go back far enough. Everybody's attached to some kind of royalty because if they weren't, their lineage died out.
Speaker 2So like you might be royal. That's why everybody I'm kind of crest or coat arms, so I just go back far enough. Actually, not mine, so my Well, I guess we have a coat of arms, but I don't know if it's. If you trace it too far back, we would lose it. Because our Oldest ancestor so you're talking about you personally yeah, my family history. So on my dad's side, my grandma, they're the off to Mars, right there from Switzerland, there, as far back as we can find. Their name literally means like baby found by wall.
Speaker 1Found by wall.
Speaker 3Yeah that's amazing.
Speaker 2Pretty tough so it's pretty badass, pretty badass.
Speaker 1That's where my name found my wall, yeah.
Speaker 3Was there a?
Speaker 1word for that. I don't know what is it Like. We need a word for this lots of babies by the wall.
Speaker 3They happen that common enough problem, I mean you probably I imagine Abandoning children was pretty commonplace if you couldn't take care of it and it might have been a, you know, it might have just been by the wall.
Speaker 1Yeah, have you guys ever actually tried to track your family's history? I did like Way back. Well, I was just talk about it.
Speaker 3Well, no, I mean like so yeah, but that was one really track, All right so that's just one branch right.
Speaker 1I've I've tried to go and I get to like four or five generations back and it just it's so vast and and you end up like just kind of discrediting some branches. You're like, I'm just as related to those people as any of these other ones.
Speaker 3That's why usually just stick to the like the names. A male, like, good man, you know well I mean. Society has made it to where, like for the longest time, the woman would lose her name and take the male's name. So the old, the easiest linear should track is the father's path. Yeah and unfortunately so it's very hard to track anything that your mother like her lineage, because there's so much like it's.
Speaker 1like you said, the branching is insane yeah my mom go back like four or five and it's just like you've got 30 people, 30 different families, and you're just like I'm overwhelmed.
Speaker 3Yeah, the, my organ name is Spanish, from Spain, and I think there's some kind of royalty at one point Forever ago but like man like my mom's side, so my grandpa's last name is Davis. You know that's the most like southern name yeah. Davis, you know.
Speaker 1Be we be we know I a lot of poor drunks in my family that's a work in the mines and died in a lot of mines. I do wonder. A lot of history of black lung.
Speaker 2Do you think? Your name has anything to do with like an occupation? Oh, it absolutely does. So what was salt? Giver of salt?
Speaker 1salt, give her of salt. So I'm assuming that we work interesting. But there's also like Sal's Berg in Germany, I think, or like something like that. There's like a, and so I wonder, like maybe there's some history there in that town or something, I don't know. There's some shit in like Austria to. It's kind of funny. I do the 23 and me Uh-huh, I'm actually not.
Speaker 1I might have a German last name but, I'm actually that German, oh, mostly Croatian, and Mostly Croatian, mostly Polish. Lots of Irish, little bit of you. So I did a quick little Google search tells me that my orga is most wise widespread in Mexico.
Speaker 3However, the name itself is a Spanish surname deriving from a place named my orga in the Valadolid province in Spain. So I'm literally just it's after a village, you own a province. That, or like the family just like, just was. You know that town. They were from that town. What if you went that name? What if you went? What if you went back to that village and then a villager saw you was like One day they will return your ancestors.
Speaker 5Just you with a like a thick moustache. There's still a town in Spain called my orga and Not a lot of people know what it is.
Speaker 3I mean, it's a little bit of a town in Spain called my orga and Not a lot going on. It was in the kingdom of Leon back in the day. Now it looks like it's pretty run down.
Speaker 1Because you haven't returned.
Speaker 2When I go, they will prosper and they rejoice did I ever tell you guys about how my grandma found one of her children through 23 and me?
Speaker 2That's fucking crazy yeah so one of my cousins they did 23 and me and you know I'll step it back first, my grandma.
Speaker 2When she was young she had a kid out of wedlock and you know it was back in the times when that was, like, usually frowned upon. So her parents made her give the kid up and she's always regretted it for years. And when 23 me came out, one of my cousins, they did it and it pinged this person who was in it's like Utah or Idaho. It was one of those and and it ends up it ends up it was her son and so it was really cool because before she passed away we were able to meet him. He came over, he got to meet his you know, my grandma and now he comes to like all the family reunions and Chit chats with us and he's part of the bigger family now. But it's crazy, it's, it was wild, it was weird and it was so it was cool to see, because that was a big regret she had that she could never find out where he went and so it was cool to see her finally be able to reconnect that.
Speaker 3Same exact thing happened to my grandpa, my, when I was like 12 years ago ish. This lady contacted my mom and was like I think I'm your sister and my mom was kind of like what? And then so they did the whole DNA thing. And so my mom went to my grandpa and was like, so what's going on here? This lady contacted me. She has all this stuff saying like that you're like her biological dad, like you know what happened here, and my grandpa apparently my grandpa was like, well, a long time ago there was one woman I was with and she told me that they weren't mine and in those days you just said okay and moved on and that's what happened. And now that lady visits my mom all the time. Oh, wow.
Speaker 3Like comes over, like she's. She got to meet my grandpa. My grandpa was like in his 80s at the time and it was like same type of thing, you know. Like it's wild, like can you imagine just being like? My mom was like in her 40s when she found out. Like being like in your 40s and be like, oh, you have a, an older sister like that you never knew about, like that's so. But back then in those days, everything was so hush hush.
Speaker 3Yeah, absolutely it was so like oh scandal If they know that this happened and yet those same old people are like these kids these days back in the round.
Speaker 5Like dude, you got four kids and three zip codes.
Speaker 1What are you talking about? Fucking kids these days, man, we can't handle it.
Speaker 3My grandpa had my mom, him and his wife had my mom like in their early, like in their 40s, like mid to late 40s, so so she has two, technically like three, older sisters that are like 20 or so years older than her. Oh wow, because he was like apparently my grandpa was like young, he was like in his early 20s, possibly even like teens, when this happened, and then he got with my grandma, like five years later, something like that, and so like it was just like one of those things, like he was like I didn't push it didn't question, it didn't any of that.
Speaker 2And then come to find out Yep, those were definitely his kids, but he had to hunch and his hunch was probably right. That's crazy. Is that my? No, okay, all right, I'll see you later, then Catch you on the flippity flip.
Speaker 3I got a blue shine, I got a go make.
Speaker 1You could literally move to the next town and like know what would have ever heard of you.
Speaker 3My grandpa grew up in a town called Cribs in Oklahoma. I think it's still to this day, has a population of maybe a thousand and had even less back then. And on top of that he was abandoned when he was like nine years old.
Speaker 1He was homeless during the Great Depression. You know it should happen, and so you know easy life Is that famous photo of like the woman in shame like selling her kids during the era?
Speaker 3He didn't get sold but, he literally got home from school one day. His parents I think his parents died, and so his older brother was the one that was like taking care of everyone. And he got home and there was a letter on the door that said we can't afford to take care of you anymore. Go see if you could live with your uncle.
Speaker 2And then his uncle was like no, and then so he literally was just a little street urchin until like could you imagine that as a child you just all of a sudden you're like I guess I'm of the streets now.
Speaker 3Yeah, I mean, this was literally like 1930 when this happened height of the Great Depression. And when he got home and saw that, and even before then, it wasn't like they were living gray he was living in like a Hooverville, like a you know metal shack, like 10 people living to a you know a room this size.
Speaker 1Yeah, I feel like that. I feel like it obviously was more normal back then to have things like that. Sure, it was still kind of like well, but there's no way in hell a nine year old kid in today's world gets like one night, because someone's gonna call somebody. Yeah, something's gonna be in person. There's so many services set in place to capture that.
Speaker 1You know, like there's no way that that happens in today's world, Like homeless children, like I'm sure there's probably it is probably out there, but if we're three of us are sitting here, like we already we know of stories like this, like it doesn't happen, that common.
Speaker 3Yeah, I mean. Well, at least not in the US, Unfortunately. Yeah.
Speaker 2No. Instead we have those fucked up stories where the like parents locked their kids in their house and just abused them. Yeah.
Speaker 1People suck.
Speaker 2People do suck man. That was how did we get to this from games?
Speaker 3Because there's gonna be a game called survive. Oh survive, Zack Snyder.
Speaker 1Nine years old Homelessness.
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Speaker 1If you can't follow that line, you're just gonna get it.
Speaker 3I honestly I don't even recall how we got. Where's the link? History, we went, history, so we talked about originally we were talking about games Gogo Mesh. And then we were making fun of the fact that we can't just make fun of storytelling, because we're making fun of Diablo, and then we were like let's follow the story Odyssey making fun of Gilgamesh. We went with the oldest book and we talked about history, but how did we get to?
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Speaker 3Lineage.
Speaker 1Because we looked up how long ago Gilgamesh and Homer came out Somehow.
Speaker 3We talked about Night Stale. This is before the Bible, and yeah, and then that's the rabbit's hole.
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